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Tell me what you think is fair value

Created by: bass8151
Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 17, 2020
Published: Sep. 17, 2020
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Just on reports tell me what you guys think it would take to get these players
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1$999,999
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CAR
  1. DeBrusk, Jake [RFA Rights]
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2020
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2021
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19$81,500,000$78,223,988$1,367,073$3,187,500$3,276,012
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, RW
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
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$999,999$999,999
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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UFA - 3
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$3,375,000$3,375,000
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,050,000$4,050,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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UFA - 2

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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:03 p.m.
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DeBrusk would cost a equal age/production RW or Top 4 LHD.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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I think the only pieces that make sense that are good value for Debrusk would be Pesce or Necas.
Debrusk and a 3rd for Pesce
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Debrusk for Necas and a 2nd

as for Keumper.. you would have to overpay pretty heavily for a goalie that good and that cheap for two years. I dont see Arizona moving him for anything less than a 1st and a solid young player that most teams would not want to give up. Like a Necas or Hayden Fleury in CAR's case along with a 1st.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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Not sure why BOS should move DeBrusk but ... they would trade him if they get a better LW (likely via free agency). So if they get an LW, then maybe move him for an LD? Again, priority is RW but if they move him in that deal, they also need that LW.

I wouldn't trade for Skjei or Gardiner. Not sure who's available for CAR among their forwards. Personally I like Necas but don't see CAR moving him/he wouldn't play C in Boston either.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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Debrusk for Bean ++ ?
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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Debrusk: Bean + not sure
Kuemper Reimer, 2021 1st
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
DeBrusk would cost a equal age/production RW or Top 4 LHD.


Im iffy on the canes moving a top four D from a production value however, moving pesce in a deal like this may make some sense. Even tho I remember seeing before gardiner for Bjork was a thing and didnt see the Bs doing that
Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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Quoting: LGBstl
I think the only pieces that make sense that are good value for Debrusk would be Pesce or Necas.
Debrusk and a 3rd for Pesce
or
Debrusk for Necas and a 2nd

as for Keumper.. you would have to overpay pretty heavily for a goalie that good and that cheap for two years. I dont see Arizona moving him for anything less than a 1st and a solid young player that most teams would not want to give up. Like a Necas or Hayden Fleury in CAR's case along with a 1st.


You are insane. HUUUUUUUUUGE overpayment for DeBrusk.
Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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Quoting: LGBstl
I think the only pieces that make sense that are good value for Debrusk would be Pesce or Necas.
Debrusk and a 3rd for Pesce
or
Debrusk for Necas and a 2nd

as for Keumper.. you would have to overpay pretty heavily for a goalie that good and that cheap for two years. I dont see Arizona moving him for anything less than a 1st and a solid young player that most teams would not want to give up. Like a Necas or Hayden Fleury in CAR's case along with a 1st.


I would see the former for debrusk, i think necas is on the untouchables list.

I have been seeing that bean reimer and some picks would make sense and maybe create some fair value for both teams
Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Not sure why BOS should move DeBrusk but ... they would trade him if they get a better LW (likely via free agency). So if they get an LW, then maybe move him for an LD? Again, priority is RW but if they move him in that deal, they also need that LW.

I wouldn't trade for Skjei or Gardiner. Not sure who's available for CAR among their forwards. Personally I like Necas but don't see CAR moving him/he wouldn't play C in Boston either.


As far as I know the only forwards available are Nino and Dzingel and the LD sorta depends cause you could do bean? Could be sheltered to replace Krugs role on the PP
Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
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Kuemper: Reimer, 2021 1st, & Stelio Mattheos.

DeBrusk: Bean, Dzingel and maybe a 2nd or 3rd.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
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Debrusk for Bean ++ ?


I dont hate that at all.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:14 p.m.
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Quoting: etpeck
Debrusk: Bean + not sure
Kuemper Reimer, 2021 1st


I wouldnt mind next years first as long as it is protected, I think the canes are going to go for askarov so they will want to keep the 13oa
Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:14 p.m.
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Quoting: KingsLover
You are insane. HUUUUUUUUUGE overpayment for DeBrusk.


Idk how either of those scenarios can be a HUUUUGE over payment lol. Necas is an up and coming prospect and a 2nd... and Pesce is a very good shut down dman who I value slighly more than Debrusk so BOS gives a pick as well..
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: KingsLover
Kuemper: Reimer, 2021 1st, & Stelio Mattheos.

DeBrusk: Bean, Dzingel and maybe a 2nd or 3rd.


This, this is unique and I kindof like it everyone wins?
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
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I dont hate that at all.


this is probably more likely than Pesce
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.
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I would see the former for debrusk, i think necas is on the untouchables list.

I have been seeing that bean reimer and some picks would make sense and maybe create some fair value for both teams


yeah I dont really know who or what CAR has interest in moving I was just trying to find a value perspective. I like the Bean plus for Debrusk best though.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: KingsLover
Kuemper: Reimer, 2021 1st, & Stelio Mattheos.

DeBrusk: Bean, Dzingel and maybe a 2nd or 3rd.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.
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Moving debrusk is tough for Boston unless they sign an ufa to replace him or have some major move to improve the top 6. There is really no in house replacement.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
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Quoting: LGBstl
I think the only pieces that make sense that are good value for Debrusk would be Pesce or Necas.
Debrusk and a 3rd for Pesce
or
Debrusk for Necas and a 2nd

as for Keumper.. you would have to overpay pretty heavily for a goalie that good and that cheap for two years. I dont see Arizona moving him for anything less than a 1st and a solid young player that most teams would not want to give up. Like a Necas or Hayden Fleury in CAR's case along with a 1st.


No chance canes trade necas for debrusk. id rather have necas now let alone in a couple years
Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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Moving debrusk is tough for Boston unless they sign an ufa to replace him or have some major move to improve the top 6. There is really no in house replacement.


It caught me off guard why they would want to move him, but i believe i saw somewhere they wanted to work with an internal cap next year? I could be wrong if I saw it but even still thats a hard player to replace unless they are going after like hall
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Debrusk for Bean ++ ?


Quoting: etpeck
Debrusk: Bean + not sure
Kuemper Reimer, 2021 1st


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As far as I know the only forwards available are Nino and Dzingel and the LD sorta depends cause you could do bean? Could be sheltered to replace Krugs role on the PP


I like Bean and he's got top4 potential but once again, this would leave Bruins without a top6 LW. It's clear: they want scoring and even though DeBrusk has been inconsistent, he can get 20-25G so moving him without replacing him in the lineup wouldn't be good.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: LGBstl
I think the only pieces that make sense that are good value for Debrusk would be Pesce or Necas.
Debrusk and a 3rd for Pesce
or
Debrusk for Necas and a 2nd

as for Kuemper.. you would have to overpay pretty heavily for a goalie that good and that cheap for two years. I dont see Arizona moving him for anything less than a 1st and a solid young player that most teams would not want to give up. Like a Necas or Hayden Fleury in CAR's case along with a 1st.


Really great analysis and conclusions. Impressive.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
I like Bean and he's got top4 potential but once again, this would leave Bruins without a top6 LW. It's clear: they want scoring and even though DeBrusk has been inconsistent, he can get 20-25G so moving him without replacing him in the lineup wouldn't be good.


Debrusk for Bean ++, I think Bean could be good with Carlo. Sign Hall with the Krug money
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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It caught me off guard why they would want to move him, but i believe i saw somewhere they wanted to work with an internal cap next year? I could be wrong if I saw it but even still thats a hard player to replace unless they are going after like hall


I dont think they want to move him tbh. Months ago an edmontons radio guy said DeBrusk was worth $6m. Later DeBrusk agent said he wasnt going to take a hometown discount...but in the same sentence said he wouldn't rule it out either lol.

I think its just a lot of speculation and people looking for things to generate clicks and views. Not saying they won't trade him, but they only do it if DeBrusk contract demands are too high or they get a deal for him that improves the deal and is a no-brainer.
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 9:31 p.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
DeBrusk would cost a equal age/production RW or Top 4 LHD.


Does the D have to be young... if not Mark Giordano is all yours
 
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