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Trying To Determine Fair Value

Created by: BoredWildFan
Team: 2016-17 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 29, 2016
Published: Sep. 29, 2016
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Nearly everyone here does it and I'm no exception. They overvalue they're own teams' players. In an effort to determine the value (or at least a perception of value) of some the younger players on the Wild, please comment with the team you support and whom (players/picks) you would trade for any of the players below.
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
15$73,000,000$61,678,591$0$1,525,000$11,321,409
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,666,667$2,666,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$3,200,000$3,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$894,166$894,166
C
UFA - 3
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
$2,550,000$2,550,000
RD
UFA - 2
$4,166,667$4,166,667
LD
UFA - 5
$5,187,500$5,187,500
RD
UFA - 4
$1,550,000$1,550,000
G
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,100,000$1M)
LD
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 1
$795,000$795,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 29, 2016 at 7:40 p.m.
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From the Flyers perspective, not much here we could use. Coyle would be interesting but I can't think of anyone, beyond guys you wouldn't want, to trade.
Sep. 29, 2016 at 7:51 p.m.
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Toronto's looking for a right handed defenseman, Dumba or Spurgeon I believe would fill that role with two options;

right now players: JVR

refilling Minnesota prospect pool: Kapanen, Brown, Johnson

If it's JVR we would need to recover more assets than just the defenseman
Sep. 29, 2016 at 8:23 p.m.
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Quoting: SickFlow
From the Flyers perspective, not much here we could use. Coyle would be interesting but I can't think of anyone, beyond guys you wouldn't want, to trade.


Thanks for your input. I live in Philly and support the Flyers (I'm a STH). I think there's a lot here the Flyers could use. I'm hoping Konecny can fill the spot, but as of now, Nino or Zucker could both easily slot in to the #2LW. Coyle #2RW if they slid either Wayne or Jake over to LW. Haula would be an upgrade over Cousins 3C. And they could use any of the top 4D listed here.

Obviously there are players like Nino and Dumba I don't want to see traded. Just like I don't want to see either Ghost or Prov shipped out, but that's not what I'm concerned with here. I'm just looking for percieved value from other teams' fans. What would you give up for a Dumba or a Nino or a Coyle?
Sep. 29, 2016 at 8:46 p.m.
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Zucker hasn't shown me anything that he can play a top 6 role. I wouldn't say Haula is better than Cousns yet. look at what Haula did 3 years ago, that is where Cousins was last year. Nino is too slow for what I want to see the Flyers do so that would only leave Coyle. The only movable players on PHI are Raffl, Read, Laughton, Cousins, MDZ, Streit, Schultz, MacDonald and maybe some prospects.

As for the D, I don't want anything to do with Spurgeon and that contract. Dumba would be ok for a 2nd pairing RHD but I think we already have that in Gudas. And the Flyers don't need any LHD.

So saying all that for Coyle I would give Laughton, Read and a 2nd. For Dumba, maybe MDZ but i think MDZ is worth more.
Sep. 29, 2016 at 10:51 p.m.
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Dumba is the only player the Rangers would be interested in. Not sure what the Wild need, maybe a center, but I'd be willing to offer JT Miller and maybe a pick or C level prospect

Tuch and Eriksson Ek are two guys the Wild should not consider moving, but their value is a similar player and age, or a 1st rounder for each IMO
Oct. 1, 2016 at 7:27 p.m.
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Toronto's looking for a right handed defenseman, Dumba or Spurgeon I believe would fill that role with two options;

right now players: JVR

refilling Minnesota prospect pool: Kapanen, Brown, Johnson

If it's JVR we would need to recover more assets than just the defenseman


Spurgeon is a better player than JVR and certainly has more value in a trade. JVR and a 2nd would get you Spurgeon.
Oct. 1, 2016 at 7:28 p.m.
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Zucker hasn't shown me anything that he can play a top 6 role. I wouldn't say Haula is better than Cousns yet. look at what Haula did 3 years ago, that is where Cousins was last year. Nino is too slow for what I want to see the Flyers do so that would only leave Coyle. The only movable players on PHI are Raffl, Read, Laughton, Cousins, MDZ, Streit, Schultz, MacDonald and maybe some prospects.

As for the D, I don't want anything to do with Spurgeon and that contract. Dumba would be ok for a 2nd pairing RHD but I think we already have that in Gudas. And the Flyers don't need any LHD.

So saying all that for Coyle I would give Laughton, Read and a 2nd. For Dumba, maybe MDZ but i think MDZ is worth more.


Nino is nowhere near slow.
Oct. 1, 2016 at 9:56 p.m.
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As a Blackhawks fan, I would love Coyle, even tho he is not on your list. He and Keith might even become BFFs!
 
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