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Created by: Jakethesnake97
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 17, 2020
Published: Sep. 17, 2020
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2$800,000
2$1,750,000
2$925,000
2$2,600,000
2$1,250,000
2$5,000,000
3$1,250,000
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  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
  2. Mete, Victor [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
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2020
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2021
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23$81,500,000$81,459,084$0$0$40,916
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
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$821,667$821,667
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
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LW, RW
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
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LW, C
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C
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LD
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UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
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UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
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UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
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$894,167$894,167
LD
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LD/RD
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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You are gonna get destroyed for this
Sep. 17, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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As much as I like Domi, if Nylander is moved I would think the D would have a bit better dman returning than Mete.
Sep. 17, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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Your gonna get destroyed for this


Not enough for Nylander.
Sep. 17, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
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Ah yes, the cap strapped Leafs really need to aquire *checks notes* a more expensive 3C for one of their best wingers
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Sep. 17, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Barilko14
As much as I like Domi, if Nylander is moved I would think the D would have a bit better dman returning than Mete.


If they did get that trade done they could easily flip Domi for more D
Sep. 17, 2020 at 6:05 p.m.
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this does literally nothing to make the leafs better
Sep. 17, 2020 at 6:05 p.m.
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Quoting: jordant89
If they did get that trade done they could easily flip Domi for more D


why wouldnt they just trade Nylander for a better defender than what they can get with Domi?
Sep. 17, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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why wouldnt they just trade Nylander for a better defender than what they can get with Domi?


They need more then 1 they need vet depth. Rather two good D then one great D. Fills more holes at the same price
Sep. 17, 2020 at 6:38 p.m.
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They need more then 1 they need vet depth. Rather two good D then one great D. Fills more holes at the same price


No, theyd be much better off with one great d because holl would be perfectly fine behind rielly and that guy with muzzin.
And this trade doesnt fill any holes. Mete isnt good and they can juar use dermott there and domi isna downgrade on Nylander at wing or c
Sep. 17, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.
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Domi to the Leafs would be cool af, but Dubas wouldn't ship out Nylander. Maybe Kerfoot or Johnsson+Liljegren for Domi+Mete.
Sep. 17, 2020 at 8:13 p.m.
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Quoting: jordant89
If they did get that trade done they could easily flip Domi for more D


"Easily flip" Cause it's very common to trade a 23 yo $7M 1st liner, and turnaround and flip the main piece they get in return to another team shortly after.

Happens all the time!
Sep. 17, 2020 at 8:16 p.m.
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They need more then 1 they need vet depth. Rather two good D then one great D. Fills more holes at the same price


Good plan. Should make it as hard as possible for Sandin and Liljegren to ever crack the lineup.

The Marc Bergevin method is an excellent approach to developing prospects.
Sep. 18, 2020 at 7:11 a.m.
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Quoting: Barilko14
Good plan. Should make it as hard as possible for Sandin and Liljegren to ever crack the lineup.

The Marc Bergevin method is an excellent approach to developing prospects.


Window is closing on this team. If they can't earn a spot on the backend they don't deserve it. Can't be handing out spots in the line up
Sep. 18, 2020 at 8:26 a.m.
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Window is closing on this team. If they can't earn a spot on the backend they don't deserve it. Can't be handing out spots in the line up


"Window is closing". They have 1 raise per year due over the next 3 or 4 years. Relax.
Sep. 18, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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"Window is closing". They have 1 raise per year due over the next 3 or 4 years. Relax.


Which window? 4 years in a row not able to win a round of playoff
Sep. 18, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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Which window? 4 years in a row not able to win a round of playoff


So a core group has about a 3 yr window to win before being blown up, no matter the age of that group?

Interesting..... I guess TB, Was, etc. didn't get that memo the last few years as each group had a ****load of playoff failures over the years, and their cores have remained intact for a lot longer than the Leafs.
Sep. 18, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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So a core group has about a 3 yr window to win before being blown up, no matter the age of that group?

Interesting..... I guess TB, Was, etc. didn't get that memo the last few years as each group had a ****load of playoff failures over the years, and their cores have remained intact for a lot longer than the Leafs.


You’re right but I’m just saying they have to keep 3 of their 4 best foward. They have to relook at their « core » and improve their defense
Sep. 18, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.
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You’re right but I’m just saying they have to keep 3 of their 4 best foward. They have to relook at their « core » and improve their defense


The problem is the only moveable one is the one most likely to be able to outplay his contract. Obv. Matthews/Tavares aren't being moved. 99% chance Marner isn't being moved.

So that leaves Nylander, who's on a reasonable contract and happens to excel more than pretty well any Leaf forward at the style that Dubas/Keefe want to play. Transition, puck possession, etc.

So I really can't see them moving him.

Right or wrong (there's 30 wrong GMs every year), this team is what it is. Between drafting (they obv hit HRs with Matthews, Marner, Nylander) and the JT signing, they are a skill/possession team.

They're spending up front and the hope is to have competent defence (mainly through draft) that moves the puck to those forwards as fast as possible. As much flak as Dubas gets about having a type, I believe him when he says he's after another Muzzin. Leafs ideally want to add skill, size, bite with every player they bring in to compliment the core. We'll see in a month or 2 if they can pull it off.

IMO a Liljegren plus for Cernak deal makes a lot of sense. Weegar/Manson could be some other targets.

Rielly - Cernak (would by far be the best consistent D partner that Rielly has ever had)
Muzz - Dermott/Holl
Sandin - Dermott/Holl
Lehtonen

I could be out to lunch, but to me this looks like a good group today, and has some potential going forward. You would hope Rielly can look like he did a year ago being healthy again, and put up another Top 5 in Norris campaign. I have faith in Dermott, his strengths are exactly what this team needs, but it would be make or break time for him, and bring Sandin along slowly and hopefully this year and next he can contribute solid minutes on an ELC.

Every pairing has speed, skill, some size, and can move the puck.

Add a bit more veteran sandpaper to bottom of the lineup with a Simmonds/Perry type, maybe some more grit on the 4th line and personally I'd be happy with that off-season.

This team is still young enough that the main way they improve is through player progression.
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Sep. 18, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Barilko14
The problem is the only moveable one is the one most likely to be able to outplay his contract. Obv. Matthews/Tavares aren't being moved. 99% chance Marner isn't being moved.

Interesting ! Good analysis. I’m not convinced it’s enough for cernak. Maybe Robertson + liljegren

So that leaves Nylander, who's on a reasonable contract and happens to excel more than pretty well any Leaf forward at the style that Dubas/Keefe want to play. Transition, puck possession, etc.

So I really can't see them moving him.

Right or wrong (there's 30 wrong GMs every year), this team is what it is. Between drafting (they obv hit HRs with Matthews, Marner, Nylander) and the JT signing, they are a skill/possession team.

They're spending up front and the hope is to have competent defence (mainly through draft) that moves the puck to those forwards as fast as possible. As much flak as Dubas gets about having a type, I believe him when he says he's after another Muzzin. Leafs ideally want to add skill, size, bite with every player they bring in to compliment the core. We'll see in a month or 2 if they can pull it off.

IMO a Liljegren plus for Cernak deal makes a lot of sense. Weegar/Manson could be some other targets.

Rielly - Cernak (would by far be the best consistent D partner that Rielly has ever had)
Muzz - Dermott/Holl
Sandin - Dermott/Holl
Lehtonen

I could be out to lunch, but to me this looks like a good group today, and has some potential going forward. You would hope Rielly can look like he did a year ago being healthy again, and put up another Top 5 in Norris campaign. I have faith in Dermott, his strengths are exactly what this team needs, but it would be make or break time for him, and bring Sandin along slowly and hopefully this year and next he can contribute solid minutes on an ELC.

Every pairing has speed, skill, some size, and can move the puck.

Add a bit more veteran sandpaper to bottom of the lineup with a Simmonds/Perry type, maybe some more grit on the 4th line and personally I'd be happy with that off-season.

This team is still young enough that the main way they improve is through player progression.
 
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