What’s the standard here cause the isles absolutely dominated multiple teams on this list and are no where to be seen

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People voted for the best team(s) back in June in his thread https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/336699
That was the results and he bought them now to compare after the playoffs

Cmon, we all know that was bubble smoke and mirrors. We knew this going in, a team could get hot in the bubble and really outperform expectations. It was the isles and Dallas, both beating multiple teams that are better than them.

Yes, the Dallas Stars caught the bubble puck luck knocking off the teams they went 4-0 (COL) and 1-1 (VEG) in the regular season. 8-4 (COL) and 6-3 (Veg) against throughout the 2019-2020 campaign.

Smoke and mirrors? As in 3 of the final 4 teams and 6 of the final 8 were round robins? FOH man I ain’t saying the isles are a top 3 team but Jesus Christ to say the bubble means nothing it’s just blatantly stupid

Yup this makes sense appreciate it!

I would like you to find for me where i said the bubble means nothing. Good luck.


The islanders are not a top ten team in the NHL. They got hot at the right time. This can happen in any season, and them doing it now shows that they have another gear. The possibility of outperforming expectations always exists in hockey because of the randomness of the game, but it was paramount in the bubble. Hence why the islanders could beat an objectively better Philadelphia, and Dallas could beat Colorado, and vegas.

If you think Dallas is better than those teams over a large sample size, i can’t help you.

The better team doesn't always win in the playoffs and that is what is happening now. It's all about who's the best in that game/series.

They had a ~14 game win streak with the a slightly worse roster in November they are 100% a top 10 team in the NHL

Every one of these teams on here has a better roster on paper than the Islanders

Cool

What happened in the regular season meetings? I forget the matchups only matter when they play on Mars.

If a team beats another when “it’s all about who’s the best..” then is A, the winning team or B the losing team, the better team?

Sorry your team lost.

At the end of the day it comes down to favourable matchups. This list is VERY accurate, when you look at the teams on paper.

A team like the Islanders are a great team, because they have SOME good players and the ENTIRE teams plays well together/has great chemistry.

You looks at a team like Carolina last year. Washington was the better team on paper, yet somehow the Canes reach the ECF.

I don’t have an issue with the list. It is natural and just for people to evaluate talent on paper before there is any data.

After 7/8 of a season, and a bubble situation in which every single team was subject to the same conditions, I would argue there is plenty of data to analyze.

When you are attempting to evaluate two different teams is it more efficient to do so “on paper,” or based on the data that was provided over multiple matchups between the two subject teams being compared?

If you ask any GM or player, is the team that is “better on paper” or the team that wins the head to head matchups over the course of 12 months the better team, what would the answer be?

If a team has (some) talent, great team chemistry, and plays well together, would that not be the definition of a good team? One that people strive to build and be apart of? If you have a good team on paper but have unfavorable matchups, are you really an elite team? If you are on paper, superior to an opponent but they dictate the entire way a game is played and beat you because of it, are you an elite team? A complete team is one that can play anyone, at any style, and come out on top.

This isn’t football, you have multiple times to demonstrate your ability against other teams of ability. At the end of the season, no matter how it gets done, the better team presents itself.

It is amazing that when presented a complete set of data, anyone can come to a conclusion that Dallas and Tampa are not the two “best teams” in hockey this season.

Honestly "Best" team seems to be very subjective. In sports when you have to deal with unplanned things, such as, 'weird' bounces, injuries, illness, mental state. There are so many factors when it comes to actually winning games.

VGK was better and Colorado was better than Dallas for most part of the season. They would have probably beat Dallas if they had their entire team; maybe not but likely. Dallas ended up being the better team in the playoffs.

You will tell me CBJ was the better team last year over TBL? In the series, yes. The entire season? No. That's my point.

I completely agree. I know that unlike football (1 game) or even baseball (ace on the mound) it takes a complete team effort to win a hockey game / series.

I guess this is why I see the better team as the team who comes out of a head to head series (season and playoff combined) on top.

Yeah you failing to acknowledge Dallas swept Colorado in the regular season and beat them in 67% of matchups over a 12 month period is more an indictment on you than anything else. Dallas plays the “Vegas style” better than Vegas. So yeah I’d say Dallas is the better “team.”

The TB situation from last season is apples to oranges. TB crushed Columbus in the regular season. For whatever reason, they were thoroughly outplayed in the playoffs.

This is not the case in the Dallas situation, who over the course of 12 months went 8-4 against a better Colorado team and 5-3 against a better Vegas team.

Detroit was 4-0 vs Montreal; are they better? Cool you beat that team 2-3-4 times but I'm talking about how you're doing against the entire league, not just that one team.

Who had the higher pts % in the regular season? Thank you.

Man you are so salty your team lost.

If you want to believe a team that lost 8 out of 12 times to another team, is better than that other team I cannot help.