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Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 19, 2020
Published: Sep. 19, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
3$3,500,000
3$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,000,000
1$750,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. DeBrusk, Jake [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 5th round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Bennett, Sam
  2. Jankowski, Mark [RFA Rights]
  3. Tuulola, Eetu
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
CGY
  1. 2022 7th round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
Red wings need to rebuild witch means they will either not sign there players or will trade them away for picks and prospects. Lucic will keep them about the cap floor.
DET
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
  2. 2022 5th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Lerby, Carl-Johan
  2. Wolf, Dustin
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (CGY)
4.
CGY
  1. Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 4th round pick (STL)
5.
CGY
  1. Raffl, Michael ($800,000 retained)
  2. van Riemsdyk, James ($500,000 retained)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$71,476,666$0$457,500$10,023,334

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
LW, C
UFA
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,125,000$3,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$400,000$400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,375,000$3,375,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,375,000$1,375,000
G
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 19, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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Bruins only move DeBrusk if they have a better LW and it is likely for a top4 LD. Unless you wanna include Hanifin, pass.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 8:59 a.m.
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So Lucic waives his NMC for Detroit? Wings don't need any help to get to the cap floor. So now teams are going with a 20 man roster?
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:02 a.m.
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1. Lucic doesn't waive
2. Your valuation of Lucic's worth is extremely off. Marleau was capable of at least getting a 4th line role and that cost a relatively low 1st for 1 year... Luc can't play hockey and has like $15-16M left on that contract...
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:03 a.m.
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If Armstrong took that deal, the coyotes should promptly fire him. That’s brutal
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:06 a.m.
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Dude it's hard to take you serious when you don't even have proper grammar, "Witch means" instead of which means "sign there players" instead of sign their players. First off Lucic isn't waiving to a rebuilding Detroit club and secondly noway are we taking a 2022 1st round pick for Lucic your 2021 1st round pick needs to be attached or you need to add a 2021 2nd on top of it. Either way we have no use for Lucic and we're not doing Calgary any favors here.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:07 a.m.
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That offer for Dunn is brutal.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:08 a.m.
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Detroit getting to the cap floor isn't going to be a problem take a look at Detroit's CapFriendly home page. When it comes to Lucic I think this says it all.

Quoting: palhal
So Lucic waives his NMC for Detroit?


Exactly Lucic won't be coming to Detroit.
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.
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FYI Detroit will have no issues getting to the cap floor, I'm getting sick and tired of people on here saying that Detroit could have issues getting to the cap floor. First off Tyler Bertuzzi will get something around 6 x $5,000,000 and Anthony Mantha 7 x $7,000,000 or so and probably Torey Krug around 7 x $8,000,000 that's already $20,000,000 right there on top of our $46,000,000 commitment we're already past the cap floor it wont be an issue.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:13 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
Detroit getting to the cap floor isn't going to be a problem take a look at Detroit's CapFriendly home page. When it comes to Lucic I think this says it all.



Exactly Lucic won't be coming to Detroit.


The other thing to consider when send "dead cap" to a team is this. The players and fans on Lucic's (name the player) don't a dead weight cap on the team long term. You've told your fans and other players, we don't care about trying to be good now. Yea I can see one year of a cap dump but not multiple years.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
1. Lucic doesn't waive
2. Your valuation of Lucic's worth is extremely off. Marleau was capable of at least getting a 4th line role and that cost a relatively low 1st for 1 year... Luc can't play hockey and has like $15-16M left on that contract...


Im kinda confused how marleau has anything to do with lucic? Very different deals for one marleau didn’t play a game for Carolina lucic would soooo that comparable is tossed out the window instantly. What Toronto did that one time needs to stop being used as a comparable. A one time deal that was obviously a very stupid expensive mistake doesn’t suddenly change market value on actual player transaction.
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:32 a.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
1. Lucic doesn't waive
2. Your valuation of Lucic's worth is extremely off. Marleau was capable of at least getting a 4th line role and that cost a relatively low 1st for 1 year... Luc can't play hockey and has like $15-16M left on that contract...


In what world can looch not play hockey? Pretty sure your the one with the bad valuation. Lucic probably makes every starting roster in the league except Tampa (and Edmonton) if it wasn't for his contract. His on ice contribution is positive value, he was a positive corsi player and very positive GAR player this season. Bad take and a half here
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:35 a.m.
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I thought Lucic played well in the bubble playoff, albeit briefly. His line with Bennett and Dube was their best line IMO. Maybe Detroit could retain cap to facilitate Lucic going somewhere else in a 3 team deal in exchange for assets.

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Im kinda confused how marleau has anything to do with lucic? Very different deals for one marleau didn’t play a game for Carolina lucic would soooo that comparable is tossed out the window instantly. What Toronto did that one time needs to stop being used as a comparable. A one time deal that was obviously a very stupid expensive mistake doesn’t suddenly change market value on actual player transaction.

I agree not every cap dump needs to be using Marleau trade as a base. If anything, teams might see what happened in that scenario and be scared off by making such a move. But also, gotta think in the current economic climate the teams are dealing in, its not going to be cheap by any means to dump contracts, and conceivable could take more depending on the contract.
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:38 a.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
1. Lucic doesn't waive
2. Your valuation of Lucic's worth is extremely off. Marleau was capable of at least getting a 4th line role and that cost a relatively low 1st for 1 year... Luc can't play hockey and has like $15-16M left on that contract...


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
In what world can looch not play hockey? Pretty sure your the one with the bad valuation. Lucic probably makes every starting roster in the league except Tampa (and Edmonton) if it wasn't for his contract. His on ice contribution is positive value, he was a positive corsi player and very positive GAR player this season. Bad take and a half here


Yeah, that's off, Lucic is a good 4th liner. Just play him there instead of playing him on the 3rd and wanting him to be a 3rd liner. Marleau sucked for Pittsburgh in the qualifiers.
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:39 a.m.
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
I thought Lucic played well in the bubble playoff, albeit briefly. Maybe Detroit could retain cap to facilitate Lucic going somewhere else in a 3 team deal in exchange for assets.

I agree not every cap dump needs to be using Marleau trade as a base. If anything, teams might see what happened in that scenario and be scared off by making such a move. But also, gotta think in the current economic climate the teams are dealing in, its not going to be cheap by any means to dump contracts, and conceivable could take more depending on the contract.

I doubt flames will be able to move him but I just hate seeing that one unique situation as a comparable. Sooo many reasons why it shouldn’t be but because people can’t seem to understand that seems anyone making over 5 million needs a first attached to trade.
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:40 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
The other thing to consider when send "dead cap" to a team is this. The players and fans on Lucic's (name the player) don't a dead weight cap on the team long term. You've told your fans and other players, we don't care about trying to be good now. Yea I can see one year of a cap dump but not multiple years.


The main reason I don't want him in Detroit is he is somewhat unstable and it's someone you want to put in a very young locker room.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:41 a.m.
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4 right handed shots on the entire roster is a massive yikes Especially when none of them are on the wing. This team will massively fail because of that
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:44 a.m.
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Yeah, that's off, Lucic is a good 4th liner. Just play him there instead of playing him on the 3rd and wanting him to be a 3rd liner. Marleau sucked for Pittsburgh in the qualifiers.


Realistically he is the same caliber player as Reaves and Maroon. Definitely a type of player you want going into the playoffs, he just costs far too much
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Realistically he is the same caliber player as Reaves and Maroon. Definitely a type of player you want going into the playoffs, he just costs far too much


Definitely more useful than Reaves who only hits and fights
Anyways Lucic wouldn't want to play in that dumpster fire
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:46 a.m.
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Definitely more useful than Reaves who only hits and fights
Anyways Lucic wouldn't want to play in that dumpster fire


Yeah, no chance he waives.
I expect he will play 2 more seasons with the Flames and waive in his last year or retire
Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.
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I can see Sweeney making a stupid trade like this.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 9:53 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Dude it's hard to take you serious when you don't even have proper grammar, Witch means instead of which means sign there players instead of sign their players. First off Lucic isn't waiving to a rebuilding Detroit club and secondly noway are we taking a 2022 1st round pick for Lucic your 2021 1st round pick needs to be attached or you need to add a 2021 2nd on top of it. Either way we have no use for Lucic and we're not doing Calgary any favors here.

If you’re going to critique his grammar then at least be grammatically correct yourself and put his offenses in quotes, like you’re supposed to. You should have put “witch means” in quotes along with his other errors.

But I totally agree with you, Detroit certainly doesn’t need Lucic nor should they do that trade. It’s really bad.
Sep. 19, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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If you’re going to critique his grammar then at least be grammatically correct yourself and put his offenses in quotes, like you’re supposed to. You should have put “witch means” in quotes along with his other errors.

But I totally agree with you, Detroit certainly doesn’t need Lucic nor should they do that trade. It’s really bad.


You're quite right, Took care of it looks better now.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 10:08 a.m.
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Don’t see the Red Wings taking Lucic for just one 1st (Marleau got a 1st for the same cap at 1 year) and even if we would accept, Lucic wouldn’t waive for us.
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Sep. 19, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.
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You're quite right, Took care of it looks better now.


You’re awesome, man.
 
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