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NOT Ehlers or Laine

Created by: SuperRandy49
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 20, 2020
Published: Sep. 20, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$800,000
2$800,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,300,000
2$975,000
2$975,000
2$975,000
2$750,000
3$2,900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,400,000
4$5,300,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
2.
WPG
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
  3. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
  4. 2020 4th round pick (WPG)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
3.
MTL
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (DAL)
OTT
  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
4.
MTL
  1. Deangelo, Anthony [RFA Rights]
NYR
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (DAL)
5.
MTL
WPG
  1. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Forgot as part of Connor trade
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the CHI
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the ANA
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the OTT
2021
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the MTL
2022
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the STL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$75,707,500$0$3,137,500$5,792,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$975,000$975,000
C
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$2,900,000$2,900,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$975,000$975,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 20, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
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If ada wants only 2.9 the rangers keep him, try adding 2 or even 3m to that number, on top of that, it’ll need a bigger return to get rangers to consider
Sep. 20, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.
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What a joke so ADA had 53 points nearly on a 60 point pace and he only gets 3 x 2.9, Yeah don't think so noway he's signing that crappy offer.
Sep. 20, 2020 at 3:20 p.m.
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Laine or Ehlers would get traded before Conner
Sep. 20, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyFan989
Laine or Ehlers would get traded before Conner


Doubt it, Connor is the worst out of the three. Can't produce unless he's stapled to Scheifele.
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Sep. 20, 2020 at 3:36 p.m.
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Not a MTL fan but that Dadonov deal...woof. 5.3x4 to a 32 y/o? Yikes.
Sep. 20, 2020 at 4:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheidebrecht
Doubt it, Connor is the worst out of the three. Can't produce unless he's stapled to Scheifele.


guarantee it, the jets organization r extremely high on him

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jets-kyle-connor-rounding-game-top-10-player-potential/
Sep. 20, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
What a joke so ADA had 53 points nearly on a 60 point pace and he only gets 3 x 2.9, Yeah don't think so noway he's signing that crappy offer.


Quoting: Spanky227
If ada wants only 2.9 the rangers keep him, try adding 2 or even 3m to that number, on top of that, it’ll need a bigger return to get rangers to consider


well as the rule for qualifying is 120% of previous AAV, he would only need to be qualified to ~1.52 million. Plus a lot of people who comment on posts here seem to forget that COVID is gonna drive down every player contract this summer whose name isn't Pietrangelo. Ada isn't getting his 5 million this summer. I like the deal (and not even from my biased Habs perspective). Gives the NYR a 4/5 defensemen signed for 2 more seasons and 2 second round picks in the DEEP draft this year, and they retain that 14 MILLION in cap space to go after anyone in offersheet they want. Maybe they target TBL for Cirelli, maybe they go after the NYI for Barzal. Opens a lot of possibilities for the team.
Sep. 20, 2020 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyFan989
Laine or Ehlers would get traded before Conner


Quoting: Cheidebrecht
Doubt it, Connor is the worst out of the three. Can't produce unless he's stapled to Scheifele.


Quoting: HockeyFan989


I think Conner would get traded for Danault, young winger with term and very solid defensively, plus 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks and a fourth.
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Sep. 20, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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Jets should really accept that but our GM is dumb sometimes so prob not
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Sep. 20, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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Sakic isn't one to trade 1st round picks. I doubt he does it for rental Tatar.
Sep. 20, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
Sakic isn't one to trade 1st round picks. I doubt he does it for rental Tatar.


Well CBA rules you can't include conditions on picks anymore but I've seen a lot worse players go for a lot more. Plus playing with Mack, probably a good chance Tatar wants to sign an extension in COL.
Sep. 20, 2020 at 5:16 p.m.
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Well CBA rules you can't include conditions on picks anymore but I've seen a lot worse players go for a lot more. Plus playing with Mack, probably a good chance Tatar wants to sign an extension in COL.


I like Tatar and think he'd be a good fit on our 2nd line. But again, unlikely that Sakic moves a 1st for him given his history of never moving 1st's. Especially since there will be a lot of great deals to be had this offseason in UFA or via trades due to the flat cap and this being a buyers market. We're going to need all the ELC talent we can get from 2023 onwards, so this pick is pretty important.
Sep. 20, 2020 at 6:00 p.m.
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Playstation moves not a single one is realistic lol
Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyFan989


I mean, the jets organization can be pretty dumb, but they can't be that dumb, Ehlers is the only forward on their team not named Copp who is not horrid defensively, he's (quite easily imo) the jets most valuable winger
Sep. 21, 2020 at 11:06 a.m.
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Quoting: SuperRandy49
well as the rule for qualifying is 120% of previous AAV, he would only need to be qualified to ~1.52 million. Plus a lot of people who comment on posts here seem to forget that COVID is gonna drive down every player contract this summer whose name isn't Pietrangelo. Ada isn't getting his 5 million this summer. I like the deal (and not even from my biased Habs perspective). Gives the NYR a 4/5 defensemen signed for 2 more seasons and 2 second round picks in the DEEP draft this year, and they retain that 14 MILLION in cap space to go after anyone in offersheet they want. Maybe they target TBL for Cirelli, maybe they go after the NYI for Barzal. Opens a lot of possibilities for the team.


He has arbitration rights.. he will get at least 4.5m easily for three years
Sep. 21, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Dan10900
I mean, the jets organization can be pretty dumb, but they can't be that dumb, Ehlers is the only forward on their team not named Copp who is not horrid defensively, he's (quite easily imo) the jets most valuable winger


Well Laine’s 2 way game really improved compared to last year so he’s no longer a liability in that department, Conner needs more time, the difference between defence and offence is that defence can be taught.. offence not so much, not a lot of young forwards know good defence, most learn over time and Ehlers is older than those 2
As well as the entire jets forward squad defence numbers look exaggerated cause of us losing our entire defence core (xept Morrissey) last off season
I mean u can’t expect the forwards to provide all the offence and defence at the same time

my list is this in terms of how valuable
Laine (starting doubt if he want to stay, don’t know why his name would be on the block otherwise)
Conner
Ehlers
My preference is to keep all 3 and fix the holes through the draft and FA though, really hope that happens
Sep. 21, 2020 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyFan989
Well Laine’s 2 way game really improved compared to last year so he’s no longer a liability in that department, Conner needs more time, the difference between defence and offence is that defence can be taught.. offence not so much, not a lot of young forwards know good defence, most learn over time and Ehlers is older than those 2
As well as the entire jets forward squad defence numbers look exaggerated cause of us losing our entire defence core (xept Morrissey) last off season
I mean u can’t expect the forwards to provide all the offence and defence at the same time

my list is this in terms of how valuable
Laine (starting doubt if he want to stay, don’t know why his name would be on the block otherwise)
Conner
Ehlers
My preference is to keep all 3 and fix the holes through the draft and FA though, really hope that happens


Laine's 2 way game started ok, but fell off towards the end of the year, he was still well below average, and Connor was a bottom 5 defensive player in the league, yes, defense can be fixed, but probably at the expense of a lot of Connor's offense (that he doesn't even drive anyway) and yes, the teams defense will look terrible, but Connor still had terrible (and Laine not much better) RAPM xGA, which accounts for the fact that nobody plays defense on the team, and that PoMo is probably the worst coach in the league, and while you can't expect them to provide all the offense and defense, I don't think it's too much to ask to not be a liability defensively, especially with the... let's call it lackluster... defense we have

If I had to rank them it'd be
Ehlers (you said it yourself, the defense on the team is terrible, Ehlers can help that, and still chip in at around a PPG if PoMo wasn't a clown, went should we gamble on Laine getting better defensively out of relatively nowhere, or Connor maintaining his S%Ax bender and improving defensively when we already have a very good defensive forward who with Connor's usage could probably get just as many bointz)

Bigish gap
Laine
Smaller gap
Connor
 
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