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Created by: Boomer125
Team: 2020-21 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 20, 2020
Published: Sep. 20, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
1$925,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
ARI
    Punishment
    ANA
    1. 2020 2nd round pick (ARI)
    2. 2021 1st round pick (ARI)
    2.
    3.
    ARI
    1. Johnsson, Andreas
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
    Additional Details:
    TO's 2nd rnd pick is Arizona's incentive to swap Kessel for Neal,
    Swapping AA for Johnsson saved the Yotes from paying AA
    TOR
    1. Athanasiou, Andreas
    Additional Details:
    If Arizona moves Kessel it frees up 1.2 million for TO
    4.
    ARI
    1. Danault, Phillip
    2. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
    3. 2020 4th round pick (WPG)
    5.
    ARI
    1. Donato, Ryan
    2. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
    3. 2021 3rd round pick (MIN)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    Logo of the ARI
    2021
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the MIN
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the ARI
    2022
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the ARI
    Logo of the ARI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$73,614,451$196,951$1,750,000$7,885,549
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $7,150,000$7,150,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $775,000$775,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,083,333$3,083,333
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $5,850,000$5,850,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $3,350,000$3,350,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $1,533,333$1,533,333
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Minnesota Wild
    $1,900,000$1,900,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $5,750,000$5,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $4,600,000$4,600,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $3,937,500$3,937,500
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $894,167$894,167
    RD
    RFA - 4
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $800,000$800,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $5,475,000$5,475,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $925,000$925,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $5,275,000$5,275,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1

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    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.
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    You're gonna have to retain on OEL
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:34 p.m.
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    what? that's not how retained salary works on the Kessel trade. It's already retained, you cant trade the retained part
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:35 p.m.
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    This ain’t it
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    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    what? that's not how retained salary works on the Kessel trade. It's already retained, you cant trade the retained part


    That's what I thought, was corrected a couple days ago, a retained contract can only be moved once while retained the next time it's moved its the whole contract
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:39 p.m.
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    oilers decline
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: ken_holland
    oilers decline


    Oilers look good with Kessel instead of Neal, he's off the books sooner and will certainly get 70 pts playing in that top 6
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    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boomer125
    Oilers look good with Kessel instead of Neal, he's off the books sooner and will certainly get 70 pts playing in that top 6


    he also makes 8.5M and fell off a cliff this year. Forget 70 points on the top 6, he would be lucky to get 40 points
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boomer125
    That's what I thought, was corrected a couple days ago, a retained contract can only be moved once while retained the next time it's moved its the whole contract


    You can retain up to 50% on the portion you are on the hook for. Toronto is retaining 15% on Kessel. You can retain 50% on what you're on the hook for (which is 42.5% of the total cap hit of 8M) . So you deal Kessel at 3.4M cap hit.

    Kessel is only owed $850k from the Coyotes the rest of the year, and $5.1M next yr. Neal is owed $5.75M for three years. That is a terrible idea. Retaining on Kessel AND paying Neal is even worse.
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Del_
    You can retain up to 50% on the portion you are on the hook for. Toronto is retaining 15% on Kessel. You can retain 50% on what you're on the hook for (which is 42.5% of the total cap hit of 8M) . So you deal Kessel at 3.4M cap hit.

    Kessel is only owed $850k from the Coyotes the rest of the year, and $5.1M next yr. Neal is owed $5.75M for three years. That is a terrible idea. Retaining on Kessel AND paying Neal is even worse.


    No where on here shows Kessel Retained, your shipping Kessel and his 6.8 that's all that's happened here
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 10:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    You're gonna have to retain on OEL


    I don’t think ARI need to retain on OEL. Plenty of team a ready to pay to get him. Also that’s a nonsense for ARI to get a future UFA in that trade. If it’s the case I think MTL will have to pay more than that.
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 11:00 p.m.
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    I don’t think ARI need to retain on OEL. Plenty of team a ready to pay to get him. Also that’s a nonsense for ARI to get a future UFA in that trade. If it’s the case I think MTL will have to pay more than that.


    If Arizona isn't going to retain, I don't think any deal would work in this situation.
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 11:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: BDIBIT
    I don’t think ARI need to retain on OEL. Plenty of team a ready to pay to get him. Also that’s a nonsense for ARI to get a future UFA in that trade. If it’s the case I think MTL will have to pay more than that.


    Cant see it , it is a 50+ million dollar contract for a 50ish point D man
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 11:01 p.m.
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    So they traded Kessel at 850k salary and 5.1M salary the next two years for 5.75M for three years for Neal? And added AA who presumably represents "value" at his 3M per qualifying offer?
    $850k this year for $8.75M. That's an order of magnitude worse.
    Next year is better. They "only" added $3 .65M that year.
    Of course, they're on the hook for the full $8.75M again in year three.

    Sounds like some thing a budget conscious team would do...
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 11:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    If Arizona isn't going to retain, I don't think any deal would work in this situation.


    It does work, OEL sets your back end up till the end of time with Weber and Price, Daunlt isn't a true 2/1 more like 2/3 C he's a UFA and the 2nd is cheap price
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 11:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boomer125
    It does work, OEL sets your back end up till the end of time with Weber and Price, Daunlt isn't a true 2/1 more like 2/3 C he's a UFA and the 2nd is cheap price


    Montreal isn't commiting that AAV and term for OEL. I'm sorry, try another team
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 11:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: ken_holland
    he also makes 8.5M and fell off a cliff this year. Forget 70 points on the top 6, he would be lucky to get 40 points


    $6.8M cap for Phil, Toronto still retaining $1.2M. I like this trade for Edmonton.
    Sep. 20, 2020 at 11:44 p.m.
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    No way habs are trading for an overpaid Dman. They need offence, not defence
     
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