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Marner Trade with Flyers- Does it Work

Created by: wolsen92
Team: 2020-21 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2020
Published: Sep. 21, 2020
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This is just for fun Im seeing all these marner trades and I came up with a trade I feel might work. Do not hate me, this is never gonna happen.
Trades
PHI
  1. Marner, Mitchell ($2,000,000 retained)
TOR
  1. Myers, Philippe [RFA Rights]
  2. Sandström, Felix
  3. van Riemsdyk, James
  4. 2020 1st round pick (PHI)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
  6. 2022 1st round pick (PHI)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
16$81,500,000$64,733,799$66,037$582,500$16,766,201
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,075,000$1,075,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$8,903,000$8,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
G
RFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
LD, LW
UFA - 1

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Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:10 p.m.
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Losing Myers would be a metaphorical kick in the balls but if this is the offer I think Philly says yes. That much cap relief while getting Marner under 9 million is too hard to pass up. Doubt this would ever in a million years happen though
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Yeah Flyers decline. The truth is, there’s not going to be any teams that will have interest in acquiring Marner given the way he played this season. We’re gonna have to have to keep him for another year & hope he improves, OR terminate his contract.
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: DH28Hockey
Losing Myers would be a metaphorical kick in the balls but if this is the offer I think Philly says yes. That much cap relief while getting Marner under 9 million is too hard to pass up. Doubt this would ever in a million years happen though


Yeah myers is untouchable, but in a Marner trade TOR would ask for him first. Myers should be a flyer for life.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:14 p.m.
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Yeah Flyers decline. The truth is, there’s not going to be any teams that will have interest in acquiring Marner given the way he played this season. We’re gonna have to have to keep him for another year & hope he improves, OR terminate his contract.


How would his contract be terminated?
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:18 p.m.
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If Toronto trades him they're not retaining salary. No matter what you read on here the Leafs LOVE Marner and have absolutely no desire to move him. It would have to be a great offer.

The Philly D I want is Provorov. Doesn't matter which way he shoots, he's such an excellent defender. Not sure if that's a one-for-one, but I would love to see the Leafs add him.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Yeah Flyers decline. The truth is, there’s not going to be any teams that will have interest in acquiring Marner given the way he played this season. We’re gonna have to have to keep him for another year & hope he improves, OR terminate his contract.


Not related to the trade here, but what do you want to see out of Marner? 200 pts in a season? I get that he plays with great linemates, but he was on pace to match his production from last season and his possession numbers were all greatly improved. Yes, he's overpaid, and yes, I'm sure the point total is buoyed by guys like Matthews and Tavares, but I'm not sure what more anyone should be expecting?
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: NLidstrom
How would his contract be terminated?


The Leafs can send him through unconditional waivers & they won’t have to pay a penny.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:26 p.m.
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Not related to the trade here, but what do you want to see out of Marner? 200 pts in a season? I get that he plays with great linemates, but he was on pace to match his production from last season and his possession numbers were all greatly improved. Yes, he's overpaid, and yes, I'm sure the point total is buoyed by guys like Matthews and Tavares, but I'm not sure what more anyone should be expecting?


marner is an excellent player who used his leverage of outstanding production at a young age to get a player friendly contract.

leafs fans are entitled brats.
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Not related to the trade here, but what do you want to see out of Marner? 200 pts in a season? I get that he plays with great linemates, but he was on pace to match his production from last season and his possession numbers were all greatly improved. Yes, he's overpaid, and yes, I'm sure the point total is buoyed by guys like Matthews and Tavares, but I'm not sure what more anyone should be expecting?


We want to see more consistency from him & better performances in the playoffs. This season, Mitch was awfully hot & cold. At the start & end of the regular season, he was horrendous, didn’t get involved in the play much at all. During the middle, he was outstanding. His playoffs were average, but more is expected from a top player.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Yeah Flyers decline. The truth is, there’s not going to be any teams that will have interest in acquiring Marner given the way he played this season. We’re gonna have to have to keep him for another year & hope he improves, OR terminate his contract.


Man you say the dumbest crap - terminate his contract wtf are you flapping about
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Not related to the trade here, but what do you want to see out of Marner? 200 pts in a season? I get that he plays with great linemates, but he was on pace to match his production from last season and his possession numbers were all greatly improved. Yes, he's overpaid, and yes, I'm sure the point total is buoyed by guys like Matthews and Tavares, but I'm not sure what more anyone should be expecting?


He needs to have 1 arm lobbed off in a fight , score 45 goals , block shots, pinch 2 shutouts a season and then maybe just maybe he'll worth 9 million
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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Man you say the dumbest crap - terminate his contract wtf are you flapping about


Terminate and renegotiate. Works for all parties except his agent.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:39 p.m.
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The Leafs can send him through unconditional waivers & they won’t have to pay a penny.


And they'd have what 9+ million buried in the minors? Stop just stop
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Terminate and renegotiate. Works for all parties except his agent.


Doesn't work that way -
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Terminate and renegotiate. Works for all parties except his agent.


tears of joy And the player himself, unless you're still giving him the same money over the same term.
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We want to see more consistency from him & better performances in the playoffs. This season, Mitch was awfully hot & cold. At the start & end of the regular season, he was horrendous, didn’t get involved in the play much at all. During the middle, he was outstanding. His playoffs were average, but more is expected from a top player.


I mean, you're paying the guy to put up points, and according to his 2019-2020 game log, the longest span that he went without at least 1 in a game was 2 consecutive games. That's...not bad...

I feel like you're possibly playing into the Toronto media love/hate relationship with players.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:42 p.m.
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I agree that Marner is overpaid (probably by 1.5 million or so) but I'd be far more concerned about acquiring JVR @ 7 Mil per year at this point and that doesn't even factor in the 2 Million in retained salary in this proposal. Marner didn't meet the high expectations placed upon him this season (he was only on pace for 93 points...) and his RTP performance was lacklustre but I feel like 5 games after a 5 month break is too small sample size to adequately judge. I would decline this proposal but I feel like a lot of frustrated fans would pull the trigger on this.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
The Leafs can send him through unconditional waivers & they won’t have to pay a penny.


Why doesn’t Vancouver do that with Eriksson, Devils with Subban, Islanders with Boychuk or Ladd, Penguins with Johnson, Wings with Abdelkader, Sharks with Vlasic, ect.

Surely it doesn’t work that way.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
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leafs arent retaining and taking van reimsdyk. also, they would want a bigger name defenceman like ekblad for marner
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
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Why doesn’t Vancouver do that with Eriksson, Devils with Subban, Islanders with Boychuk or Ladd, Penguins with Johnson, Wings with Abdelkader, Sharks with Vlasic, ect.

Surely it doesn’t work that way.


The player has to agree to it since they’re not making a single penny on whatever term remains of their deal.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
tears of joy And the player himself, unless you're still giving him the same money over the same term.

I mean, you're paying the guy to put up points, and according to his 2019-2020 game log, the longest span that he went without at least 1 in a game was 2 consecutive games. That's...not bad...

I feel like you're possibly playing into the Toronto media love/hate relationship with players.


Yeah I admit it feels better as long as he scores a point but this season, most of them were second assists & empty net goals. We didn’t see enough magic from him.
 
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