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Domi Danault take 47

Created by: The_Architect
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2020
Published: Sep. 21, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$4,750,000
2$925,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,250,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (NYR)
NYR
    Rights to Max Domi
    2.
    MTL
    1. Anderson, Josh [RFA Rights]
    2. 2021 1st round pick (CBJ)
    CBJ
    1. Danault, Phillip
    Additional Details:
    Condition: Danault signs extension
    3.
    MTL
    1. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
    4.
    MTL
    1. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
    3. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
    DAL
    1. Tatar, Tomas
    Additional Details:
    Condition: Tatar signs extension
    5.
    MTL
    1. Suzuki, Ryan
    2. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
    3. 2021 3rd round pick (CAR)
    CAR
    1. Gallagher, Brendan
    Additional Details:
    Condition: Gallagher signs extension
    6.
    MTL
    1. Tuch, Alex
    2. 2020 1st round pick (VGK)
    3. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
    VGK
    1. Petry, Jeff
    Additional Details:
    Rights to Cole Caufield
    7.
    TBL
    1. Lehkonen, Artturi
    2. Ylönen, Jesse
    3. 2021 3rd round pick (MTL)
    8.
    SJS
    1. Alzner, Karl
    2. Byron, Paul
    3. Kulak, Brett
    4. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
    5. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
    6. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
    7. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
    8. 2020 1st round pick (VGK)
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    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$71,924,642$0$4,307,500$9,575,358
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
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    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    C
    UFA - 2
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 7
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    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $700,000$700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $9,250,000$9,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,350,000$4,350,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Sep. 21, 2020 at 9:42 p.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    Ok but just remember what I said. Domi put up 72 playing with Drouin and Byron. Which means Strome gets 45 playing with the same guys. But it's all good I don't blame you either way going for Danault.


    Drouin is good, Byron ain't. Who did you play with this year that made him worse.
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.
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    To me JA isn't the player he was last yr. It was an anomaly. I believe he's more of a 25/25 guy. He put up 27 goals 2 yrs ago and 25 of them were 5v5. Wennberg isn't the ideal C to bring out JA's true potential. Suzuki or Kotkaniemi are.


    I mean I have nothing against NS and KK but they are still pretty young - very good, but I wouldn't call them the ideal centres to rejuvenate a career just yet - that's not important to this point though. If you think he'll be good, great, you can get him for 3 years for like 2.5M, if he's good, great, if he's not, it's not an absolute loss. You don't sign a guy for what he used to be, you sign him for what he is, unless you've got some young superstar that everyone can predict being indisputably worth more in the future.
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 9:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    Drouin is good, Byron ain't. Who did you play with this year that made him worse.


    Drouin was out over 3 months with wrist injury and Domi was flanked by 3rd liners Byron the most common one. The rest was a carousel.
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 9:53 p.m.
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    It's definetly an exaggeration the amount of trades i made. But the trades themeselves are what I really want to see opinions on.


    well I don't see Suzuki being traded at all and Gallagher for the 13th might be good vslue
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: leafs101
    I mean I have nothing against NS and KK but they are still pretty young - very good, but I wouldn't call them the ideal centres to rejuvenate a career just yet - that's not important to this point though. If you think he'll be good, great, you can get him for 3 years for like 2.5M, if he's good, great, if he's not, it's not an absolute loss. You don't sign a guy for what he used to be, you sign him for what he is, unless you've got some young superstar that everyone can predict being indisputably worth more in the future.


    And there's nothing wrong with your philosophy which is the common approach most of the times. But I'm definitely betting the house by trading Danault for him. He'll never accept less than 3.5 and I don't blame him. He's got leverage cause there's a big demand for him around the league. So I gotta out bid every one to acquire him and pay him more (term included) cause of the high taxes in Quebec. BOS is salivating over him as we speak and I can't let them have him. From what I hear he wants long term, no bridge.
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:11 p.m.
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    well I don't see Suzuki being traded at all and Gallagher for the 13th might be good vslue


    Hmmm. I'd imagine he's expendable considering CAR has Aho, Staal, Trotchek and Necas down the middle. I don't think there's a UFA winger this yr as complete as Gallagher. He's not superstar caliber by all means but he's the quintessential playoff player for any contender looking for an edge.
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    Really?? I figured Domi put up 72 pts while playing with Drouin that entire season so i took into consideration what he can actually do with the stacked top 6 wingers you guys got.


    His defense is a major concern. And he has Ferris as an agent. Going to be a tough contract to get locked up and the Rangers don't exact have a ton of cap space this season.
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    His defense is a major concern. And he has Ferris as an agent. Going to be a tough contract to get locked up and the Rangers don't exact have a ton of cap space this season.


    I heard today NYR is looking to unload Buchnevich D'Angelo and Strome. Domi shouldn't get more than 6.5 and that's a push. Danault supposedly wants between 6.5-7. Which I think 7 is ridiculous.
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.
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    And there's nothing wrong with your philosophy which is the common approach most of the times. But I'm definitely betting the house by trading Danault for him. He'll never accept less than 3.5 and I don't blame him. He's got leverage cause there's a big demand for him around the league. So I gotta out bid every one to acquire him and pay him more (term included) cause of the high taxes in Quebec. BOS is salivating over him as we speak and I can't let them have him. From what I hear he wants long term, no bridge.


    long term I'm giving him no more than 3.75 still. The league is trending towards speedy guys who play with skill and heart, not big lumbering guys who aren't great skaters but play hard, generally speaking. You have to be able to skate well to be a 5 million dollar guy in this league, is basically what I'm trying to say, and I'm not sold on Anderson's skating
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:28 p.m.
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    long term I'm giving him no more than 3.75 still. The league is trending towards speedy guys who play with skill and heart, not big lumbering guys who aren't great skaters but play hard, generally speaking. You have to be able to skate well to be a 5 million dollar guy in this league, is basically what I'm trying to say, and I'm not sold on Anderson's skating


    https://www.nhl.com/bluejackets/news/blue-jackets-breakdown-josh-anderson/c-308281824
    Sep. 21, 2020 at 10:39 p.m.
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    I heard today NYR is looking to unload Buchnevich D'Angelo and Strome. Domi shouldn't get more than 6.5 and that's a push. Danault supposedly wants between 6.5-7. Which I think 7 is ridiculous.


    Strome yeah. Not really on the other 2. They're "listening" but they're going to have to be floored with a deal to actually do anything. Same with someone like Georgiev. They've been "listening" on offers for Kreider for the last 5 years heh.

    EW has the estimate at 5 years 6.25 mil. That's about the ceiling I'd consider.

    He's made it clear he really only wants to pay Center and wants to get paid and wants to play in the top 6. The amount of teams that are willing to play him at C with his defensive liabilities AND willing to pay him even close to what he's asking AND willing to play him in the top 6 at C is small. And the recency bias of him getting dropped down the lineup a bit this year doesn't exactly help.
    Sep. 22, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
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    Strome yeah. Not really on the other 2. They're "listening" but they're going to have to be floored with a deal to actually do anything. Same with someone like Georgiev. They've been "listening" on offers for Kreider for the last 5 years heh.

    EW has the estimate at 5 years 6.25 mil. That's about the ceiling I'd consider.

    He's made it clear he really only wants to pay Center and wants to get paid and wants to play in the top 6. The amount of teams that are willing to play him at C with his defensive liabilities AND willing to pay him even close to what he's asking AND willing to play him in the top 6 at C is small. And the recency bias of him getting dropped down the lineup a bit this year doesn't exactly help.


    He was demanding because he wanted to prove he can put up 70 pts again so he can get paid. He wouldn't be able to prove that if he was getting bottom 6 minutes or playing the wing since he's primarely a playmaker. Personally i believe he'll be happy with 6.25 maby longer term (6yrs). Once he gets that he's gonna drop the primadonna act and play hockey no matter where he gets slotted. Have you guys thought of acquiring Haula? I think he'd be an awesome 3C behind Zibanejad and Domi/Danault.

    Speaking of MZ, a little while back he was on the Basement Yard podcast. Cool kid. Long form interviews really give a clear prospective of someone's character, it was quite refreshing.
    Sep. 22, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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    Strome yeah. Not really on the other 2. They're "listening" but they're going to have to be floored with a deal to actually do anything. Same with someone like Georgiev. They've been "listening" on offers for Kreider for the last 5 years heh.

    EW has the estimate at 5 years 6.25 mil. That's about the ceiling I'd consider.

    He's made it clear he really only wants to pay Center and wants to get paid and wants to play in the top 6. The amount of teams that are willing to play him at C with his defensive liabilities AND willing to pay him even close to what he's asking AND willing to play him in the top 6 at C is small. And the recency bias of him getting dropped down the lineup a bit this year doesn't exactly help.


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