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Asking price for Garland

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Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:43 p.m.
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Not sure of the value, but they’d want strictly picks I’d think. Arizona is trying to lower the amount they spend, so Garland and his $775K cap hit would be amongst the last to be moved, and taking on salary wouldn’t likely happen.
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:44 p.m.
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20 goal scorer making under 800K?

a heck of a lot more than that stuff you proposed
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:45 p.m.
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don't we need better defence? why are we trading a top defensive prospect for a forward? Lilly could be great for us one day, he's only 21
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:49 p.m.
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That high? I guess I could see that. Arizona only seems to want to dump player over the age of 25. I could see something along the lines of...
Toronto gets Kuemper, Garland, 2020 5th
Arizona gets Anderson, Johnsson, Liligeren, Bracco, 2020 2nd
Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.
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Apparently he's untouchable. Pretty easy to tell why of course, but a Yotes fan on here said they aren't trading him, which makes sense.
Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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1) I dont really know if that is the type of player the leafs need more of.
2) I highly doubt Arz would make him available to begin with.
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:00 p.m.
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1) I dont really know if that is the type of player the leafs need more of.
2) I highly doubt Arz would make him available to begin with.


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don't we need better defence? why are we trading a top defensive prospect for a forward? Lilly could be great for us one day, he's only 21


Signing Pietrangelo would be the subsequent move
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
20 goal scorer making under 800K?

a heck of a lot more than that stuff you proposed


I don't know about heck of a lot more, but fair.
Johnsson is making less than Garland will make and Johnsson is a solid top 9 winger who can play in the top 6.
+ Liljegren who is a good RH D prospect.

Its a reasonable offer if you ask me. But sure might need to add to get it done
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.
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Signing Pietrangelo would be the subsequent move


I don't see that changing any of the points that I have made. Could Tor move out AJ or Kerf and sign Petro, sure. Arz doesn't care about that though
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: kllnhookrs
I don't know about heck of a lot more, but fair.
Johnsson is making less than Garland will make and Johnsson is a solid top 9 winger who can play in the top 6.
+ Liljegren who is a good RH D prospect.

Its a reasonable offer if you ask me. But sure might need to add to get it done


I think the issue is a lot less about the value in a vacuum and more not understanding the current situation Arz is in.
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.
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I don't see that changing any of the points that I have made. Could Tor move out AJ or Kerf and sign Petro, sure. Arz doesn't care about that though


Well it answers the first point. Leafs replace and improve Johnsson and save cap space.

If he isn't available thats fine, thats why I asked
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:07 p.m.
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I think the issue is a lot less about the value in a vacuum and more not understanding the current situation Arz is in.


Fair. I understand things are tight.

Liljegren fills a role for them though as their right side is all UFA after this coming year
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:09 p.m.
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Well it answers the first point. Leafs replace and improve Johnsson and save cap space.

If he isn't available thats fine, thats why I asked


That's fair. Tor just already has plenty of internal replacements and outside of cap savings and moving a player they would want to clear cap space for, the target just doesn't really fit their MO. Like if anything you would think they would go after a guy like Crouse (who I also doubt gets moved but is more plausible)
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.
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Fair. I understand things are tight.

Liljegren fills a role for them though as their right side is all UFA after this coming year


Arz is going to be terrible for multiple seasons with no hope of getting better because JC did just a terrible terrible job with that team. They need to move out old players for any futures possible to save money while keeping any young players they can. Garland is about the only good thing they have from a marketing standpoint and a major fan favorite that will be vital to them selling any tickets at all.

If you want old players for futures then go for it, but if you want to get a young player that the fans love, then you had better be offering something that they just cant turn down.
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: kllnhookrs
I don't know about heck of a lot more, but fair.
Johnsson is making less than Garland will make and Johnsson is a solid top 9 winger who can play in the top 6.
+ Liljegren who is a good RH D prospect.

Its a reasonable offer if you ask me. But sure might need to add to get it done


I could of sworn it said johnsson and bracco. if it was liljegren the whole time i apologize
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.
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Not sure of the value, but they’d want strictly picks I’d think. Arizona is trying to lower the amount they spend, so Garland and his $775K cap hit would be amongst the last to be moved, and taking on salary wouldn’t likely happen.


Isn't Garland a RFA? won't he get a substantial raise after his great season?
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
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Isn't Garland a RFA? won't he get a substantial raise after his great season?


He will get paid more sure, but thats not really the point. Unless a player is over 25 years old it might be best just to not bother with it unless you are really going to go big for them as that will be their entire focus for this offseason.
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
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That high? I guess I could see that. Arizona only seems to want to dump player over the age of 25. I could see something along the lines of...
Toronto gets Kuemper, Garland, 2020 5th
Arizona gets Anderson, Johnsson, Liligeren, Bracco, 2020 2nd


Your Not even Close that trade wouldn't even get you Kuemper , Coyotes have no use for Andersen as they would have Raanta and Hill and then you want Garland the best cost per goal and point player in the league for scraps and spare parts nope Coyotes Counter with 15 overall pick and Nick Robertson
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
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I could of sworn it said johnsson and bracco. if it was liljegren the whole time i apologize


It was always Liljegren, but I appreciate your correction.
If it was Bracco I wouldn't blame you for commenting that
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.
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Your Not even Close that trade wouldn't even get you Kuemper , Coyotes have no use for Andersen as they would have Raanta and Hill and then you want Garland the best cost per goal and point player in the league for scraps and spare parts nope Coyotes Counter with 15 overall pick and Nick Robertson


How about Johnsson and the 15th?
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
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How about Johnsson and the 15th?


Thats close to fair value for just Kuemper but Kuemper alone Garland when it comes to picks is worth probably more than what Kapanen got
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:24 p.m.
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Your Not even Close that trade wouldn't even get you Kuemper , Coyotes have no use for Andersen as they would have Raanta and Hill and then you want Garland the best cost per goal and point player in the league for scraps and spare parts nope Coyotes Counter with 15 overall pick and Nick Robertson


Andersen will be paid a million this year and you need to cut salary.
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
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Andersen will be paid a million this year and you need to cut salary.


and we dont need Andersen we already have Raanta and Adin Hill
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.
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Quoting: DSZ
Your Not even Close that trade wouldn't even get you Kuemper , Coyotes have no use for Andersen as they would have Raanta and Hill and then you want Garland the best cost per goal and point player in the league for scraps and spare parts nope Coyotes Counter with 15 overall pick and Nick Robertson


If we are getting Garland and Kuemper, I'd do Anderson,Liligeren and 15th. Not Robertson. The kid (well, I guess I can't call him a kid because he's older than me haha) is 18, and he has a play-in goal, he should get 20 goals next year.
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: DSZ
and we dont need Andersen we already have Raanta and Adin Hill


Anderson is only 1 mil in real money (why am I even telling you this, you've probably heard it 50 times before haha). The yotes need real money.
 
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