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If Matthews wasnt on the Leafs

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 22, 2020
Published: Sep. 22, 2020
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He'd be regarded as a top 10 player who would fetch an unheard of amount of assets in a trade but since he's a leaf he's just average and has a bad contract which scares away teams from sending decent assets if he were to be traded
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Matthews, Auston
4$11,634,000
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1.
TOR
  1. Capobianco, Kyle [RFA Rights]
  2. Schmaltz, Nick
  3. 2021 1st round pick (ARI)
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  1. Matthews, Auston
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  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
  3. Keller, Clayton
  4. Söderström, Victor
  5. 2022 1st round pick (ARI)
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2021 1st round pick
ARI
  1. Matthews, Auston
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Return if he's on any other team
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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Cause if he wasn't on the leafs his contract would be better
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.
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If Matthews wasnt on Leafs, Marner would be 8 x 9,5M
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
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No, I think most people are in agreement that Matthews would require a kings ransom to acquire. Most middling trades for him get laughed at pretty openly.
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
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Have you considered that maybe other fans think he's overrated because of how much Toronto fans talk about him in the category of players with actual playoff success

If they'd win a playoff series that would pretty effectively clear up the controversy
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:49 p.m.
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I think he is regarded as a top 10 player (and if not, hes very close)

His contract isnt great (so thats a fair criticism), but why would you even want to trade him in the first place? Who cares how much other fanbases would give up for him - Just keep him if you dont like the return
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Have you considered that maybe other fans think he's overrated because of how much Toronto fans talk about him in the category of players with actual playoff success

If they'd win a playoff series that would pretty effectively clear up the controversy


That's fair but why does that not apply to Eichel then? He's never even made the playoffs
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:50 p.m.
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That's fair but why does that not apply to Eichel then? He's never even made the playoffs


Buffalo fans don't rant about how Eichel is underrated constantly, the team around him is also a ton worse
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.
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I think he is regarded as a top 10 player (and if not, hes very close)

His contract isnt great (so thats a fair criticism), but why would you even want to trade him in the first place? Who cares how much other fanbases would give up for him - Just keep him if you dont like the return


Believe me I'm very against trading him, just annoyed that some people don't understand that he's untouchable and getting him would require a massive overpay like almost every other teams superstar player
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:54 p.m.
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talk about a made up bad take.
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Buffalo fans don't rant about how Eichel is underrated constantly, the team around him is also a ton worse


Yes they do.
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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Yes they do.


I see less of it
Sep. 22, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
Believe me I'm very against trading him, just annoyed that some people don't understand that he's untouchable and getting him would require a massive overpay like almost every other teams superstar player


I very rarely see Matthews trades posted on here - and if I do see one its very likely that it was posted by a Leafs fan or from the Leafs point of view
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Buffalo fans don't rant about how Eichel is underrated constantly, the team around him is also a ton worse


all they do is whine and cry about eiichel and how he gets quintuple teamed with no teammates to help
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Have you considered that maybe other fans think he's overrated because of how much Toronto fans talk about him in the category of players with actual playoff success

If they'd win a playoff series that would pretty effectively clear up the controversy

star players when they won first series
Bergeron-5th season
Kopitar- 6th season
Mackinnon-6th season
Benn -7th season

draisaitl and mcdavid winning 1 series 3 years ago isnt playoff success by any means
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:06 p.m.
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star players when they won first series
Bergeron-5th season
Kopitar- 6th season
Mackinnon-6th season
Benn -7th season

draisaitl and mcdavid winning 1 series 3 years ago isnt playoff success by any means


all of those players proved more before their fans started complaining about them being underrated imo
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
all of those players proved more before their fans started complaining about them being underrated imo


matthews has done way more at his point in his career than those guys did at the same point meaning after the 4th year of their careers
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
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matthews has done way more at his point in his career than those guys did at the same point


I promise I don't care, Matthews is fine

The fact that Leafs fans turn it into an argument is why other fanbases think he's overrated
I would personally wait to win before I started arguing about how great a player is
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
I promise I don't care, Matthews is fine

The fact that Leafs fans turn it into an argument is why other fanbases think he's overrated
I would personally wait to win before I started arguing about how great a player is


you can argue about how great a player is without winning, mackinnon and mcdavid havent won anything, cant arugue how good they are? and its not that auston matthews is underrated, but to say hes overrated is dumb and biased, hes not overrated by any means
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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you can argue about how great a player is without winning, mackinnon and mcdavid havent won anything, cant arugue how good they are? and its not that auston matthews is underrated, but to say hes overrated is dumb and biased


again, just my two cents
I don't care
the fact that it turns into an argument is what annoys everyone else
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
again, just my two cents
I don't care
the fact that it turns into an argument is what annoys everyone else


then why chime in ?
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:16 p.m.
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then why chime in ?


well that's a circular argument

the original poster made a point, I tried to explain why other fanbases feel a certain way

the biggest thing is, if Leafs fans didn't make such a stink about Matthews and just let his/the teams' performance speak for itself you would probably see him valued more appropriately

instead, you start comparing him to McDavid and Mackinnon, naturally that's where people are going to say he just isn't as good

which isn't saying he's bad, he just quite in that category
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
well that's a circular argument

the original poster made a point, I tried to explain why other fanbases feel a certain way

the biggest thing is, if Leafs fans didn't make such a stink about Matthews and just let his/the teams' performance speak for itself you would probably see him valued more appropriately

instead, you start comparing him to McDavid and Mackinnon, naturally that's where people are going to say he just isn't as good

which isn't saying he's bad, he just quite in that category


warning you now that this dude will never let up
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Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
well that's a circular argument

the original poster made a point, I tried to explain why other fanbases feel a certain way

the biggest thing is, if Leafs fans didn't make such a stink about Matthews and just let his/the teams' performance speak for itself you would probably see him valued more appropriately

instead, you start comparing him to McDavid and Mackinnon, naturally that's where people are going to say he just isn't as good

which isn't saying he's bad, he just quite in that category


not trying to compare them,but also no reason why matthews wont be in that convo in 1-2 years, ill use draisaitl and eichel instead then, or barkov none have won anything team wise, mackinnon took 6 years to win a series and you dont hear anything coming from other fanbases or media bringing that up
Sep. 22, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.
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warning you now that this dude will never let up


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