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Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 23, 2020
Published: Sep. 23, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Team in 21-22:

Panarin-Cirelli-Kakko
Laffy-Mika-Buch(5 years, 5,25 mil AAV extension)
Jost(2 year, 2,5 mil extension)-Chytil(3 years, 3,75 mil extension)-Kravstov
Lemieux-Barron/Howden/4C-Goat(2 years, 1,5 mil extension)

Lindgren(2 years, 2,25 mil extension)-Fox
Miller-ADA
Zadorov-Lundkvist

Shesterkin(7 years, 6,5 mil extension, basically Hellebuyck money)
Georgiev

Bosogian/7D
13th F
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,750,000
1$2,750,000
5$5,750,000
1$850,000
2$2,750,000
2$1,500,000
6$5,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
1$1,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3$925,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Cirelli, Anthony [RFA Rights]
TBL
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (ANA)
  3. 2022 4th round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
If Trouba scores 55 pts in 20-21, the 2022 4th becomes a 2022 2nd. In that case, ANA would also got a 2022 4th rounder
3.
NYR
  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
  2. Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 4th round pick (COL)
  4. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Kreider, Chris
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (ANA)
4.
NYR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
  2. 2021 4th round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Strome, Ryan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (DAL)
5.
NYR
  1. 2020 5th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Reunanen, Tarmo
  2. Staal, Marc ($1,000,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$70,208,133$0$8,362,500$11,291,867

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
RFA - 2
Lafreniere, Alexis
$925,000$925,000
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 2
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LD
RFA - 3
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA
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$850,000$850,000
LW
UFA - 1

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Sep. 23, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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No from SJ.
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Just to make sure... you sign Buch to a 11M/y... 5y@65M... or it's a typo for 6,5M a year???
Cirelli is a great two way C... he should not be a 1C
Sep. 23, 2020 at 9:58 a.m.
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No from SJ.


Very wrong from you lol
Sep. 23, 2020 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Just to make sure... you sign Buch to a 11M/y... 5y@65M... or it's a typo for 6,5M a year???
Cirelli is a great two way C... he should not be a 1C


Just a horrible typo on Buch

Also Cirelli isn't 1C here, I just wanted to split Mika and Panarin
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:00 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Just to make sure... you sign Buch to a 11M/y... 5y@65M... or it's a typo for 6,5M a year???
Cirelli is a great two way C... he should not be a 1C


Top two lines are interchangable. Panarin played second line with Strome and Fast for most of this year, so he wouldn't really have to be a 1C
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: SJS2212
No from SJ.


Don't you mean "No way Jose from SJ?"

Colorado wouldn't like that trade you have with them either by the way. Kreider is making $2M too much post-covid, has a NMC (which I believe would still be valid following a trade so Col could potentially be handcuffed with him) and his term is long for a 29 year old. Plus, the trade alone is verrrry lopsided towards NYR. That being said, if you take all the draft picks out of it and make it a simple 2for1 trade, it makes more sense IMO. I just really don't like the Kreider contract.
That Kreider contract is really unfourtunate following the flat cap and is also the only bad thing for NYR following the Lafreniere win.
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Very wrong from you lol


Not at all Kakko. SJ needs their picks this year (they're already short a few) and that Ryan Strome contract negotiation is going to hurt. He'll ask for a lot and he'll be a risk no matter. I hope the NYR overpay him this year, sorry. Edit: also, SJ's own Cap situation is not good going into the offseason. Lots of money going to 30yr old + players
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:10 a.m.
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Oh, yeah, no...no thanks to sending 3 picks and no salary to the Rangers for Trouba. He's overpaid by about $1.5 mil, and he just put up his worst season since his rookie year. I'd rather go spend $4-5 or so for a few years of Brodie, or $3-4 on DeMelo.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:13 a.m.
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Don't you mean "No way Jose from SJ?"

Colorado wouldn't like that trade you have with them either by the way. Kreider is making $2M too much post-covid, has a NMC (which I believe would still be valid following a trade so Col could potentially be handcuffed with him) and his term is long for a 29 year old. Plus, the trade alone is verrrry lopsided towards NYR. That being said, if you take all the draft picks out of it and make it a simple 2for1 trade, it makes more sense IMO. I just really don't like the Kreider contract.
That Kreider contract is really unfourtunate following the flat cap and is also the only bad thing for NYR following the Lafreniere win.


Ouch, 2 mil post covid you claim??? LOL that's so wrong on so many level, a player who's a money in the bank 25 goals, 50-55 pts per year with great skating, physical presence and leadership's worth 4,5 mil now? Wow that's so wrong. The only thing that worries me about his deal is the 7th year. That's the only thing that's bad about it
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
Don't you mean "No way Jose from SJ?"

Colorado wouldn't like that trade you have with them either by the way. Kreider is making $2M too much post-covid, has a NMC (which I believe would still be valid following a trade so Col could potentially be handcuffed with him) and his term is long for a 29 year old. Plus, the trade alone is verrrry lopsided towards NYR. That being said, if you take all the draft picks out of it and make it a simple 2for1 trade, it makes more sense IMO. I just really don't like the Kreider contract.
That Kreider contract is really unfourtunate following the flat cap and is also the only bad thing for NYR following the Lafreniere win.


I think Kreider's AAV is fine, but the length of the contract is concerning. If the Rangers are moving him right after re-signing him, then I have to assume they're in a poor spot with respect to negotiations. For those reasons I agree with the trade above (Zadorov and Jost - no picks). Colorado has other options and doesn't need to give up a first here.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
Not at all Kakko. SJ needs their picks this year (they're already short a few) and that Ryan Strome contract negotiation is going to hurt. He'll ask for a lot and he'll be a risk no matter. I hope the NYR overpay him this year, sorry. Edit: also, SJ's own Cap situation is not good going into the offseason. Lots of money going to 30yr old + players


Like I can patrly agree if you believe SJ should keep their picks, this was only a trade based on value and SJ is a place holder.

Look at what GMs have been giving for 15-20 goals, 40-45 pts player over the past few years lol. It's just ignorant how everyone think Strome's worth a late 2nd and that's it.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:18 a.m.
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Oh, yeah, no...no thanks to sending 3 picks and no salary to the Rangers for Trouba. He's overpaid by about $1.5 mil, and he just put up his worst season since his rookie year. I'd rather go spend $4-5 or so for a few years of Brodie, or $3-4 on DeMelo.


1-I made an AGM team and it's fairly easy to fit Trouba in, I could post one if you wanted.
2-he was only bad because of his usage, since Ruff used him as a shutdown d-man. Weird how his overall role was much greater in the play ins than in the regular season and that he looked much better lol.
3-a late 1st rounder and 2 other picks isn't terrible to give up for a guy who's, at worse, a number 2 (he's better than Fowler)
4-getting Trouba on the right side would allow you guys to pick Holtz/Raymond and not Drysdale (if he's still there at 7th) so your F core would be all set
5-makes Manson expendable. Trade him to a team like WIN for 2 2nds
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
I think Kreider's AAV is fine, but the length of the contract is concerning. If the Rangers are moving him right after re-signing him, then I have to assume they're in a poor spot with respect to negotiations. For those reasons I agree with the trade above (Zadorov and Jost - no picks). Colorado has other options and doesn't need to give up a first here.


Jost looks like a bust ish at this point, dude can't score and Zadorov is an average number 4. If you think that's the return for a proven number 4 caliber option at F then I don't know what to tell you.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.
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Staal doesn't waive his NMC in his last NHL season. Ducks can spend 8m better than on Trouba and you want them to give assets too? Trouba is a Ranger for 7 more years.
Can't see Colorado wanting all the long term cap of Kreider, and giving up assets too. San Jose can probably just sign a centre for Strome money and keep their assets too.
It's a flat cap league...trading unwanted cap is tough enough, but expecting value bad in a trade....impossible.
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
I think Kreider's AAV is fine, but the length of the contract is concerning. If the Rangers are moving him right after re-signing him, then I have to assume they're in a poor spot with respect to negotiations. For those reasons I agree with the trade above (Zadorov and Jost - no picks). Colorado has other options and doesn't need to give up a first here.


As for the negotiation thing, we didn't know we were getting Lafrenière at that time lol. If we knew that we would've moved him I'm 100% certain about that
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.
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COL and TB decline
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Jost looks like a bust ish at this point, dude can't score and Zadorov is an average number 4. If you think that's the return for a proven number 4 caliber option at F then I don't know what to tell you.


I never said the return was fair. The point is that if NY is trying to move him then they aren't in a position of strength at the negotiating table. Maybe add the 2021 2nd or a prospect like Beaucage or Ranta. Or send Smith as a cap dump. That's about it from Colorado though (imo).
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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Staal doesn't waive his NMC in his last NHL season. Ducks can spend 8m better than on Trouba and you want them to give assets too? Trouba is a Ranger for 7 more years.
Can't see Colorado wanting all the long term cap of Kreider, and giving up assets too. San Jose can probably just sign a centre for Strome money and keep their assets too.
It's a flat cap league...trading unwanted cap is tough enough, but expecting value bad in a trade....impossible.


It's not the cap that's the issue on Trouba/Kreider lol it's their place in the lineup. Can't see one of Panarin/Laffy/Kreids moving to RW and dropping Buch to th 3rd line is a waste a his talent
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Jost looks like a bust ish at this point, dude can't score and Zadorov is an average number 4. If you think that's the return for a proven number 4 caliber option at F then I don't know what to tell you.


Dude the entire premise of your team here is to shed cap. You're getting rid of Staal, Kreider, Trouba and Strome. It's obvious what you're doing and guess what, approx 25 teams are trying to do the same thing. It's a buyers market now for these players. You'll be surprised. Contracts have a lot to do with trades, especially now. Trouba underperformed for his money, now he's a serious liability, Staal is no longer playing at the same level anymore, (agree to disagree on Kreider obviously) but you clearly have a LW playing 3rd line making over $6M AAV and that's a serious problem with a flat cap. And bigger problem is Strome who had a great year, but just 1 great year. And now he'll ask for a shtonne of money and term that you cannot give.
Admit your goal here was to shed cap, now think that 25 teams are trying to do the same.
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
As for the negotiation thing, we didn't know we were getting Lafrenière at that time lol. If we knew that we would've moved him I'm 100% certain about that


Agree on this part. FU guys and your lottery luck btw, lolsmile .
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Ducks can spend 8m better than on Trouba and you want them to give assets too? Trouba is a Ranger for 7 more years.


@Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan This ^.

Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
1-I made an AGM team and it's fairly easy to fit Trouba in, I could post one if you wanted.
2-he was only bad because of his usage, since Ruff used him as a shutdown d-man. Weird how his overall role was much greater in the play ins than in the regular season and that he looked much better lol.
3-a late 1st rounder and 2 other picks isn't terrible to give up for a guy who's, at worse, a number 2 (he's better than Fowler)
4-getting Trouba on the right side would allow you guys to pick Holtz/Raymond and not Drysdale (if he's still there at 7th) so your F core would be all set
5-makes Manson expendable. Trade him to a team like WIN for 2 2nds


1-Sure, keep him.
2-That's fine, he'd end up being put in similar Dzone starts in Anaheim as well.
3-Giving up picks when you're retooling to take on $8 mil for the next 7 years seems...dumb...especially when there are options galore in FA. Heck, for $500 K more, the Ducks could probably just snag Pietrangelo. I heard SoCal is lovely in the winter grin
4-There's only about a 50/50 chance that Drysdale is available at 6 OA anyway.
5-Getting Trouba and then moving Manson puts them back at square 1, where the teams D had a pretty significant hole in it.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
Dude the entire premise of your team here is to shed cap. You're getting rid of Staal, Kreider, Trouba and Strome. It's obvious what you're doing and guess what, approx 25 teams are trying to do the same thing. It's a buyers market now for these players. You'll be surprised. Contracts have a lot to do with trades, especially now. Trouba underperformed for his money, now he's a serious liability, Staal is no longer playing at the same level anymore, (agree to disagree on Kreider obviously) but you clearly have a LW playing 3rd line making over $6M AAV and that's a serious problem with a flat cap. And bigger problem is Strome who had a great year, but just 1 great year. And now he'll ask for a shtonne of money and term that you cannot give.
Admit your goal here was to shed cap, now think that 25 teams are trying to do the same.


I never said it wasn't a part of it lol, I said it's not the main reason.

Keeping Kreider... blocks Lafrenière and Kravtsov
Keeping Trouba... blocks Lundkvist
That's not the way to do it for a team like us.

Also we have a history of moving players before their NMC/NTC kicks in (Brassard in 2016 and Stepan in 2017) so I really wouldn't be shocked one bit if one of/both of Kreids/Trouba got moved.

The premise that Strome only has one great year behind his belt is ludacris, he was one of our only bright spots (ZIbanejad and AG being the others) in the 18-19 season.

Also I've seen LA fans themselves saying that as a plan C/D, Staal could work. And there is retention, and there's a prospect added lol
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
@Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan This ^.



1-Sure, keep him.
2-That's fine, he'd end up being put in similar Dzone starts in Anaheim as well.
3-Giving up picks when you're retooling to take on $8 mil for the next 7 years seems...dumb...especially when there are options galore in FA. Heck, for $500 K more, the Ducks could probably just snag Pietrangelo. I heard SoCal is lovely in the winter grin
4-There's only about a 50/50 chance that Drysdale is available at 6 OA anyway.
5-Getting Trouba and then moving Manson puts them back at square 1, where the teams D had a pretty significant hole in it.


Petro isn't signing in a team like ANA, he's signing in a team that can frontload his deal like crazy, and it's not like ANA is one of the richest teams in the league.
Also, the difference between Trouba and Petro is the age, Trouba is still at an age where you can be patient before contending, where has Petro is in a major win now mode
Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:48 a.m.
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Definitely nope from SJ
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Very wrong from you lol


Is his daddy Panarin coming with him in this proposed scenario? Otherwise, SJ will hold onto their pick and $5 million in cap space for the 35 point per season scorer that he has been the rest of his career.
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