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Isles decline

Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.

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Quoting: Isles777

Isles decline

Quoting: MMXD

Too much in the isles deal

How are both of these possible? Isles can’t afford all their d so somethings gotta give. Toews is exactly what the leafs need other than he’s LHD but that hasn’t stopped Dubas in the past

Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.

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Quoting: GMRyan

How are both of these possible? Isles can’t afford all their d so somethings gotta give. Toews is exactly what the leafs need other than he’s LHD but that hasn’t stopped Dubas in the past

Leddy will be the one that gets traded, even if the isles have to retain salary.

Isles aren’t trading their best two way D

Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.

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Quoting: GMRyan

How are both of these possible? Isles can’t afford all their d so somethings gotta give. Toews is exactly what the leafs need other than he’s LHD but that hasn’t stopped Dubas in the past

Leafs are overpaying here. I wouldn't do it

Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.

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Doesn't really make sense for NYI. Mikheyev doesn't provide much for us and not sure who those other two guys are. Would rather just keep Toews.

Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.

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Leafs are overpaying here. I wouldn't do it

He’s the best 2 way d on a great team. I don’t think it’s gunna be cheap to add that element to the leafs

Sep. 23, 2020 at 1:59 p.m.

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Doesn't really make sense for NYI. Mikheyev doesn't provide much for us and not sure who those other two guys are. Would rather just keep Toews.

Lou knows who they are

Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.

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Lou knows who they are

Doesn’t mean he’s going to trade his PP1 QB and best two way defenseman for them

Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:04 p.m.

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He’s the best 2 way d on a great team. I don’t think it’s gunna be cheap to add that element to the leafs

15th overall
A top 6 forward
prospects (more worried about Korshkov)

for

A top 4 LHD
A bust

Sorry but no.

Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.

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Quoting: MMXD

15th overall
A top 6 forward
prospects (more worried about Korshkov)

for

A top 4 LHD
A bust

Sorry but no.

Mikheyev is a middle 6 winger who benefits from playing with great players.

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Sep. 23, 2020 at 2:14 p.m.

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Quoting: MMXD

15th overall
A top 6 forward
prospects (more worried about Korshkov)

for

A top 4 LHD
A bust

Sorry but no.

So subtract Soup and it’s a deal in your eyes?

Oct. 30, 2020 at 9:19 a.m.

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Quoting: Isles777

Leddy will be the one that gets traded, even if the isles have to retain salary.

Isles aren’t trading their best two way D

;(

Oct. 30, 2020 at 11:18 a.m.

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;(

I wish barry trotz didn’t have a big influence on personnel decisions

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Oct. 30, 2020 at 11:20 a.m.

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I wish barry trotz didn’t have a big influence on personnel decisions

Are you 100% convinced on that? Lou had to have some thought on it.

Oct. 30, 2020 at 11:27 a.m.

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Are you 100% convinced on that? Lou had to have some thought on it.

Yes. Game 6 of the playoffs he called nick Leddy the best player on the ice and the isles writer for the athletic stated trotz loves Leddy, he’s not getting traded. I mean obviously Lou has a say but if his coach just took a team to the ECF and wants to keep a certain player.... they would have saved money keeping toews

I heard in nashvillle trotz had a lot of pull when it came to free agency, trades. Pretty sure Poile drafted players that trotz would want in his system.

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Oct. 30, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.

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Sounds like dictatorship.

Oct. 30, 2020 at 11:39 a.m.

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Sounds like dictatorship.

Trotz is the reason why Nate Schmidt was left exposed in the expansion draft - he definitely has more say than most coaches

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Oct. 30, 2020 at 12:11 p.m.

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Trotz is the reason why Nate Schmidt was left exposed in the expansion draft - he definitely has more say than most coaches

I wonder how much more good than not it does.

Oct. 30, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.

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I wonder how much more good than not it does.

I’ve been saying he’s overrated for a while because he makes a lot of self defeating moves. This guy played boychuk over Dobson for most of the season and at one point had Tom kuhnhackl on barzal’s line. Go look up that RAPM chart...

Trotz gets too much credit for the isles success. They win games because of great goaltending and because of guys like beauvillier, pulock, Nelson, and eberle who really don’t get the recognition they deserve.

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Oct. 30, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.

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It's hard to argue since the team is rather similar but worse since he came in with Tavares leaving. Makes Trotz look good.

Oct. 30, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.

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Isles decline

This didn’t age well, haha they took less than I offered

Oct. 30, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.

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It's hard to argue since the team is rather similar but worse since he came in with Tavares leaving. Makes Trotz look good.

Trotz is obviously a very good coach, I wouldn’t say he’s an elite coach like MSM makes him out to be. I’d give just as much credit to Mitch korn the goalie guru. Varlamov was a top 10 G this season and without pelech the isles defense was league average. Korn could probably take Martin Jones and make him a top 10-15 G.

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Oct. 30, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.

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This didn’t age well, haha they took less than I offered

That’s what happens when you have an overrated coach who has major influence on personnel decisions. It is what it is. Noah Dobson will be a #1 D by the end of the next season so it’s all good.

Oct. 30, 2020 at 11:50 p.m.

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