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Pens - Post Hornqvist Trade

Created by: PensGM2019
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 23, 2020
Published: Sep. 23, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
2$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
Trades
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PIT
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (OTT)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,522,675$0$1,062,500$2,977,325
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$894,167$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 4
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,940,000$2,940,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$850,000$850,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2

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Sep. 23, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
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Hakuna Matata
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Hornqvist probs said no thanks as he has a full NTC and has no interest in playing in florida.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 3:35 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle




Hornqvist probs said no thanks as he has a full NTC and has no interest in playing in florida.


He already waived his NTC. Just working the insurance piece due to length of contract
Sep. 23, 2020 at 3:38 p.m.
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What an awful, awful trade. But if it gets the GM to move on from JJ, kind of worth it maybe? (Not really, but still).
Sep. 23, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
What an awful, awful trade. But if it gets the GM to move on from JJ, kind of worth it maybe? (Not really, but still).


i think the sens would pass if anyone, jj probbaly takes a first and a bit to move
Sep. 23, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
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OTT declines

JJ costs more to dump
Sep. 23, 2020 at 6:11 p.m.
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With regards to the proposed trade with Florida.... I think this is a rare Jim Rutherford WIN. For the record I think (and have thought for years now) he's a terrible GM, but there's ALOT to unpack in this trade. First for foremost. This trade has Coach Q written all over it! and I'm going to pat myself on the back here. I 100% predicted Matheson would fail under coach Q. Not only did his ATOI drop by 4 minutes...his February and March had a few single digit games and a bunch in the low teens. Coach Q can't help himself. If you're young and you turn the puck over...you're in the dog house. There is no development time for him. Coach Q is NEVER playing a run and gun...1st to 7 goals win...type of game.

I understand it's a risk, but you're going to get a guy in Matheson that fits your system. This isn't an insult at all...PIT is a run and gun team. That's how they win games. They're not beating people up. Their defense is...let's keep the puck in the offensive zone. If you let up 5 goals...not a problem in the world because we probably got 6. No shame in that! Matheson isn't winning a ton of board battles. He might be a bit weak against the cycle. WHATEVER! He can move the puck up the zone. That's all PIT cares about. I do think you'll see 40+ point seasons. The catch is once the HOFers leave....then what happens, but that's for a different post.

Hornqvist - I think he's overrated. Injury prone. Let's not kid each other Crosby faces the shutdown line. Malkin 2nd then Hornqvist gets easy pickens. Now Florida is expecting a 33+ player to get better while getting older and needing to play against tougher competition....oh and more minutes? That's not a recipe for success. Florida can't replace Hoffman or Daddy with freakin Hornqvist!
Sep. 23, 2020 at 7:23 p.m.
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He already waived his NTC. Just working the insurance piece due to length of contract


never was confirmed he waived his NTC.

According to 3 seperate reports the reason the deal went down was because of the following

1. Zito did not want a financial headache should Hornqvist get injured
2. GMJR could not reach Hornqvist to get his approval for the trade
3. Hornqvist got the news and said no

in general the deal would have made 0 sense for the penguins and im sure GMJR realized this in time. Things could change but rn it seems both sides have their doubts.
 
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