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NHL Network confirms AP27 camp is high

Created by: BeastModeUnknown
Initial Creation Date: Sep 23, 2020
Published: Sep 23 at 3:48
Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues
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NHL Network stated Pietrangelo camp says the starting offer must be 11.5M Which is ridiculous for multiple reasons. He doesn't play amazing he's good but last year's performance doesn't put him a penny over 9 Mill. He is already 30 so the decline could happen just as quick as Doughty and Karlsson. Flat Cap prohibits this kind of thing because no one has 11.5M laying around.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pietrangelo, Alex7$11,500,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
STL
STL
WSH
STL
STL
CAR
CHI
2021
STL
STL
STL
STL
2022
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$87,433,848$306,349$425,000-$5,933,848
Left WingCenterRight Wing
STL
Steen, Alexander
$5,750,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
$7,500,000
C
UFA - 3
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
$7,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
STL
Schwartz, Jaden
$5,350,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Schenn, Brayden
$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 8
STL
Perron, David
$4,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
STL
Sanford, Zachary
$1,500,000
LW
RFA - 1
STL
Bozak, Tyler
$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Blais, Samuel
$1,500,000
RW
RFA - 2
STL
MacEachern, Mackenzie
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
STL
Sundqvist, Oskar
$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
STL
Thomas, Robert
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
STL
Barbashev, Ivan
$1,475,000
C
RFA - 1
STL
Kyrou, Jordan
$758,333
RW
RFA - 1
STL
De La Rose, Jacob
$700,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
STL
Faulk, Justin
$6,500,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 7
STL
Parayko, Colton
$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
STL
Binnington, Jordan
$4,400,000
G
UFA - 1
STL
Scandella, Marco
$3,275,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
STL
Bortuzzo, Robert
$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 2
STL
Husso, Ville
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
STL
Gunnarsson, Carl
$1,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Pietrangelo, Alex
$11,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7

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Sep 23 at 3:50
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lmaooo watch the Leafs give him 10+
Sep 23 at 3:51
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Quoting: TheAlien
lmaooo watch the Leafs give him 10+


Yeah, just to watch him go down the drain in performance, and they are even more screwed for the next 7 years.
Sep 23 at 3:53
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11.5 is high

from what I heard blues have a new offer for him 8 for 8

Now from lebrun reports leafs are also prepare to give him 8 for 7 and within 2 years he would get 2 12 mill bonuses. He showed what a potential contract could look like on the leafs side and man would pitrangelo be making that cash money
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Sep 23 at 3:56
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Welcome to Toronto, Mr Parayko
Sep 23 at 3:56
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I think a 7 year deal at $9M is perfect. How do you complain with that?
Sep 23 at 3:59
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Welcome to Toronto, Mr Parayko


Wrong. Pietrangelo would enter Toronto. Blues have CP55 untouchable now that AP27 is gone.

Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
I think a 7 year deal at $9M is perfect. How do you complain with that?



7 years. He's already 30 years old look at Karlsson and Doughty they fell off the deep end could be much of the same thing with Pietrangelo. It's not so much the dollar amount it's the term. But with a lesser term comes a lesser dollar amount.
Sep 23 at 4:04
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11.5 is crazy but the early leaks were how the Blues were lowballing etc...

If true than we know why the Faulk deal happened
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Sep 23 at 4:04
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Wrong. Pietrangelo would enter Toronto. Blues have CP55 untouchable now that AP27 is gone.


I meant if STL agrees to $ 11.5 million x 8 years
Sep 23 at 4:05
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get off my lawn...
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Yeah, just to watch him go down the drain in performance, and they are even more screwed for the next 7 years.


Leafs won’t be doing that... neither will the blues. Have fun vegas lol.
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Sep 23 at 4:05
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get off my lawn...
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To the OP... do you have a link?
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Sep 23 at 4:05
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I meant if STL agrees to $ 11.5 million x 8 years


Blues aren't signing him. They told him to walk, and even if we did Bozak, Steen, (Allen already gone) makes 14 Million. So Parayko would still stay in St.Louis.
Sep 23 at 4:06
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Quoting: Jamiepo
To the OP... do you have a link?


it was on NHL Network on TV. Otherwise I would.
Sep 23 at 4:07
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get off my lawn...
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
it was on NHL Network on TV. Otherwise I would.


Oh ****, didn’t even know you posted this. Wtf... that is insane if true.. possibly more negotiating through the media to get everyone’s ufa offer up a bit
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Sep 23 at 4:18
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Good Opinion Haver
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Yeah, just to watch him go down the drain in performance, and they are even more screwed for the next 7 years.


Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

7 years. He's already 30 years old look at Karlsson and Doughty they fell off the deep end could be much of the same thing with Pietrangelo. It's not so much the dollar amount it's the term. But with a lesser term comes a lesser dollar amount.


Ok but also look at Giordano, Suter, and Weber. It could be much of the same thing with Pietrangelo there. Those guys are more similar to how he plays anyway.

Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
I think a 7 year deal at $9M is perfect. How do you complain with that?


Quoting: Jamiepo
Oh ****, didn’t even know you posted this. Wtf... that is insane if true.. possibly more negotiating through the media to get everyone’s ufa offer up a bit



I really don't buy this 11.5 number thing. I believe Beast Mode, but whoever said that on NHL Network has to be misinformed. All of the reports have Pietrangelo just around nine and the blues just around eight.

A lot of the squabbling seems to be about contract structure. They want Pietrangelo to agree to a below market AAV and then work out how the contract will be structured- whether it will have signing bonuses and such. If the organization is a bit cash strapped, as a lot of the organizations are, committing to those bonuses could be problematic (look at the Coyotes right now). However, signing bonuses are key for a player to accepting a below market deal- they inherently offer buyout and trade protection, especially now. Player will also be seeking to get a lot of that money upfront, and maybe the Blues can't do that.
Sep 23 at 4:26
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
Ok but also look at Giordano, Suter, and Weber. It could be much of the same thing with Pietrangelo there. Those guys are more similar to how he plays anyway.






I really don't buy this 11.5 number thing. I believe Beast Mode, but whoever said that on NHL Network has to be misinformed. All of the reports have Pietrangelo just around nine and the blues just around eight.

A lot of the squabbling seems to be about contract structure. They want Pietrangelo to agree to a below market AAV and then work out how the contract will be structured- whether it will have signing bonuses and such. If the organization is a bit cash strapped, as a lot of the organizations are, committing to those bonuses could be problematic (look at the Coyotes right now). However, signing bonuses are key for a player to accepting a below market deal- they inherently offer buyout and trade protection, especially now. Player will also be seeking to get a lot of that money upfront, and maybe the Blues can't do that.


Don't forget he wanted to stay in st.louis so that might be a discounted offer.
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Sep 23 at 5:02
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Edited Sep 23 at 5:09
From "He will never leave STL cause his wife and hes the best" to "hes a chump wanting 11M for being mediocre".....and you are mocking TML homers.... i mean
Sep 23 at 6:49
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Quoting: Laudan
From "He will never leave STL cause his wife and hes the best" to "hes a chump wanting 11M for being mediocre".....and you are mocking TML homers.... i mean


Well if you did hear he told media he wanted to stay in St.Louis, never called him a chump but if you want to assume he’s worth more than Panarin, Matthews, Marner, Tavares, only one he is under is McDavid sure you can believe it. Army told him to walk because he wanted to much, okay then. If he wants too much he wants too much, but I doubt Toronto gets him. There is a difference between you thinking Parayko for Johnsson Dermott and a 1st making all of your spare parts worth Gretzky being a homer and saying he’s not signing with Toronto because you would be dumb spending over 43 Million on 4 players bud.
 
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