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Matheson Trade

Created by: gpmack95
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 23, 2020
Published: Sep. 23, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
According to DK Sports, hold up is Hornqvist insurance, but FLA was going to retain some salary on Matheson as he has a longer contract.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,250,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Fleury, Marc Andre
1$1,200,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Matheson, Michael ($925,000 retained)
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. White, Colin
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WPG)
OTT
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 5th round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Wood, Miles ($1,250,000 retained)
NJD
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. 2020 6th round pick (PIT)
4.
PIT
  1. 2020 4th round pick (NSH)
5.
PIT
  1. Sundqvist, Oskar
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
STL
  1. DeSmith, Casey
  2. Lafferty, Sam [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 4th round pick (NSH)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the WSH
2021
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the ANA
2022
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
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Logo of the PIT
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$79,790,175$0$850,000$1,709,825
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,940,000$2,940,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,250,000$3,250,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$3,950,000$3,950,000
LD
UFA - 6
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
Fleury, Marc Andre
$1,200,000$1,200,000
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 23, 2020 at 7:48 p.m.
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Can’t see Florida retaining and giving up the higher pick.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
#2
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easy no for OTT, your not dumping JJ and getting anything good in return even adding Matt murry which OTT does not need
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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sens decline as long as jj is in there
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Sep. 23, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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Why the NJ trade?
Sep. 23, 2020 at 7:57 p.m.
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Former Hockey Fan
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Could be the same as the Pacioretty-Tatar trade where both teams retain salary. That way Panthers ownership would be able to save money in the short-term.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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Pop Pop
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So swapping jj for 3 years for Matheson for 6 more years. Better hope the dude snaps back.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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Emotionally in 2018
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Ottawa and St. Louis pass easily. Makes no sense for them to make either move.
Sep. 23, 2020 at 8:16 p.m.
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OTT rejects in a heartbeat
Sep. 23, 2020 at 8:31 p.m.
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With regards to the proposed trade with Florida....it should be straight up 1 for 1, but I think this is a rare Jim Rutherford WIN. For the record I think (and have thought for years now) he's a terrible GM, but there's ALOT to unpack in this trade. First for foremost. This trade has Coach Q written all over it! and I'm going to pat myself on the back here. I 100% predicted Matheson would fail under coach Q. Not only did his ATOI drop by 4 minutes...his February and March had a few single digit games and a bunch in the low teens. Coach Q can't help himself. If you're young and you turn the puck over...you're in the dog house. There is no development time for him. Coach Q is NEVER playing a run and gun...1st to 7 goals win...type of game.

I understand it's a risk, but you're going to get a guy in Matheson that fits your system. This isn't an insult at all...PIT is a run and gun team. That's how they win games. They're not beating people up. Their defense is...let's keep the puck in the offensive zone. If you let up 5 goals...not a problem in the world because we probably got 6. No shame in that! Matheson isn't winning a ton of board battles. He might be a bit weak against the cycle. WHATEVER! He can move the puck up the zone. That's all PIT cares about. I do think you'll see 40+ point seasons. The catch is once the HOFers leave....then what happens, but that's for a different post.

Hornqvist - I think he's overrated. Injury prone. Let's not kid each other Crosby faces the shutdown line. Malkin 2nd then Hornqvist gets easy pickens. Now Florida is expecting a 33+ player to get better while getting older and needing to play against tougher competition....oh and more minutes? That's not a recipe for success. Florida can't replace Hoffman or Daddy with freakin Hornqvist!
Sep. 23, 2020 at 8:49 p.m.
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Do people that put into these trades not take into consideration EXACTLY what will happen if 29 is brought back to Pittsburgh with the "Fans"? Like really if you look anywhere it is more then obvious what will happen. Allow me to spell it out why I personally am against Fleurys return to the Pens... So lets say he is brought in like you said. So Jarry is the starter going into camp and coming out of camp (Barring injuries).
"Fleury isn't the starter but even still Im just so happy he is back with the team! Cant wait to see him start."
-1 Month into the season-
"Well Jarry has been good but we need to give Fleury more starts because Jarry is starting to flounder a bit and we need him fresh!"
-2 Months into the season after Jarry has a couple of bad games as every goalie will and Fleury is still a backup-
"Well Jarry clearly needs a break! We need to make Fleury the starter so Jarry can rest up and clean up his game!"
-3 Months into the season-
"FLEURY IS THIS TEAMS STARTER!!!!!!"

Im not even saying management will be like this. But the fact that this is what will become of Pittsburgh as the cult of Fleury continues to try and get their idol back as a starter in PGH it is something this team should avoid like the plague till he is retired. I cannot be the only person who sees this trend.
 
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