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Pens I guess

Created by: Marincin_memes
Initial Creation Date: Sep 25, 2020
Published: Sep 25, 2020 at 9:32
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan1$3,200,000
Simon, Dominik1$1,775,000
Zadorov, Nikita2$3,500,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
  2. Mutala, Sasha [Reserve List]
Additional Details:
I just trying to think, is Murray any better then grubby?
COL
  1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Feel like gmjr gonna make a similar trade to this one, a big defenceman and a meh prospect for a inconsistent starter
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$81,056,842$0$850,000$443,158
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PIT
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Sceviour, Colton
$1,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$1,775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,200,000
G
UFA - 3
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
Zadorov, Nikita
$3,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Sep 25, 2020 at 9:36
#1
I hate this team
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Also I might be ****ing up the lines, not sure
Sep 25, 2020 at 9:36
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Avs decline
Sep 25, 2020 at 9:38
#3
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I hate this team
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Quoting: Xqb15a
Avs decline


I’m not sure how to gage Zadorov’s value, some people have told me he’s a useless defenseman and only worth a 3rd rnd pick while others have told me that’s he’s amazing and worth a late 1st and a prospect
Sep 25, 2020 at 10:12
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Quoting: Marincin_memes
I’m not sure how to gage Zadorov’s value, some people have told me he’s a useless defenseman and only worth a 3rd rnd pick while others have told me that’s he’s amazing and worth a late 1st and a prospect


haha well those values say it, he's pretty inconsistent. He's a big body presence which is his main thing and for a big guy he's still a solid skater. I think his value probily lands somewhere in the middle of those two starting with a 2nd round pick and something else.
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Sep 25, 2020 at 10:21
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Quoting: Marincin_memes
I’m not sure how to gage Zadorov’s value, some people have told me he’s a useless defenseman and only worth a 3rd rnd pick while others have told me that’s he’s amazing and worth a late 1st and a prospect


I thought Zadorov played steady in the playoffs but the Avs in general gave up a lot of goals. Tough to tell style vs. Quality there.

That said, I think Murray has more value than him in a deal swapping the two players. I don't think this is far off. Like I said in a previous post, Avs fans will fall in love with MM.
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Sep 25, 2020 at 10:25
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Absolutely not, avs are not adding a 3rd goalie when the have 2 under contract

Plus Murray is not getting that return
Sep 25, 2020 at 10:26
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Quoting: Marincin_memes
I’m not sure how to gage Zadorov’s value, some people have told me he’s a useless defenseman and only worth a 3rd rnd pick while others have told me that’s he’s amazing and worth a late 1st and a prospect


you are trolling,
No one has has stated that value
Sep 25, 2020 at 11:34
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Quoting: coga16
you are trolling,
No one has has stated that value


I am not trolling, I’ve had avs fans tell me that
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Sep 25, 2020 at 11:34
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Quoting: coga16
Absolutely not, avs are not adding a 3rd goalie when the have 2 under contract

Plus Murray is not getting that return


Would you do a 141 Zadorov for Murray?
Sep 25, 2020 at 11:37
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Quoting: Nights_King93
I thought Zadorov played steady in the playoffs but the Avs in general gave up a lot of goals. Tough to tell style vs. Quality there.

That said, I think Murray has more value than him in a deal swapping the two players. I don't think this is far off. Like I said in a previous post, Avs fans will fall in love with MM.


Exactly, Murray has the more value which is why I added the prospect
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Sep 25, 2020 at 11:45
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Quoting: Marincin_memes
Would you do a 141 Zadorov for Murray?


no bc dont want Murray what so ever, he is not an upgrade in net, he is a riskier more expensive goalie than Grubauer
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Sep 25, 2020 at 11:46
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Quoting: Marincin_memes
I am not trolling, I’ve had avs fans tell me that


or they are trolling you, bc I dnot think any avs fans on his site has ever said that, its pretty common that a 2nd and 3rd for zads among the avs fans here have said about his value
Sep 25, 2020 at 1:20
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Quoting: Marincin_memes
I’m not sure how to gage Zadorov’s value, some people have told me he’s a useless defenseman and only worth a 3rd rnd pick while others have told me that’s he’s amazing and worth a late 1st and a prospect

Here’s the thing, Zadorov is one of those guys on here that most people find easy to talk down “oh he is at best a bottom pairing guy”. I’ve used this analogy on him before, if you took a 10 game sample of his play 4 games you think he is an elite shutdown guy that plays physical skates great and the other team KNOWS when he is on the ice. 2 games he is good typical low event 2nd pairing dman. 2 games he is straight average. 1 game he is below average unengaged not skating a lot of standing around. And 1 game he is awful. Makes boneheaded plays like leaving the goal front to try someone high on the wing. The exasperating part is that the great games come when he is matched against top talent and the awful games are usually against bad teams. In COL he is definitely Bednar’s whipping boy, but his teammates love him. The one aspect that gets never mentioned here is he does play very well in the playoffs. I think fair value is a 2nd and 3rd pick, maybe a touch more at the TDL.
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Sep 25, 2020 at 7:17
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Quoting: coga16
or they are trolling you, bc I dnot think any avs fans on his site has ever said that, its pretty common that a 2nd and 3rd for zads among the avs fans here have said about his value


Not on this site bc I don’t go on this site much, but on my insta I’ve had people say he’s 1st +
Sep 25, 2020 at 7:23
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Quoting: Marincin_memes
Not on this site bc I don’t go on this site much, but on my insta I’ve had people say he’s 1st +

I don’t think insta is where legit hockey talk happens, seems like a bad place for that. Why nhl insiders or news isn’t being broken on it
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Sep 25, 2020 at 7:47
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Quoting: coga16
I don’t think insta is where legit hockey talk happens, seems like a bad place for that. Why nhl insiders or news isn’t being broken on it


Yeah, theirs a lot of biased fans/ people that don’t know **** a bout hockey on there
 
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