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Montreal Canadiens signed Jeff Petry (4 Years / $6,250,000 AAV)

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Sep. 25, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.
#151
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Age is just a number


Save it for your next trip to the playground.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 10:57 p.m.
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1) Pietrangelo will be 30 when his contracts starts while Petry will be 34.
2) Pietrangelo will be 34 when the 5th year of his contract stars.
3) Pietrangelo is way way better and more valuable than Petry.

Sorry bud.


Yeah no ****. That's why one is getting 9+ and Petry got 6.2
Sep. 25, 2020 at 10:58 p.m.
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Save it for your next trip to the playground.


Alright
Sep. 25, 2020 at 11:03 p.m.
#154
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"Lower than market"

LMAO.

So what does the flat-cap marketplace look like for 34 year old defensemen?


Petry's market value would be similar to Spurgeon, at 7.5M. Thus the "lower than market".

Also, since the cap will increase again when he will be 35 (year 2 of 4), your point falls short.
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Sep. 25, 2020 at 11:30 p.m.
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Yeah no ****. That's why one is getting 9+ and Petry got 6.2


No it's because Pietrangelo is way better.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 11:30 p.m.
#156
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Alright


Wow that was an inappropriate response.
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Sep. 26, 2020 at 12:14 a.m.
#157
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There's a 15 Trade Clause and a full NMC


You are right, thanks for telling me! It was not in the initial report that I saw, neither on CapFriendly at first.
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Sep. 26, 2020 at 5:51 a.m.
#158
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There are currently no salary concerns. Also our cap space is spread out along the 3 main positions (Forward/Defense/Goaltending) and we can roll all 4 lines.


EXCUSE ME WHAT?

By next season, Montreal has to re-sign these 9 players:

Domi
Tatar
Gallagher
Danault
Armia
Lehkonen
Kotkaniemi
Mete
Weal

And they're already paying these 9 players $50,000,000:

Price
Weber
Petry
Drouin
Alzner
Edmundson
Chiarot
Byron
Kulak

So they have $32,000,000 leftover to sign all 9 guys.

Plus another 5 guys on top of that, so 14 total.

Good luck.
Sep. 26, 2020 at 9:27 a.m.
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No it's because Pietrangelo is way better.


Tell me how
Sep. 26, 2020 at 9:31 a.m.
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EXCUSE ME WHAT?

By next season, Montreal has to re-sign these 9 players:

Domi
Tatar
Gallagher
Danault
Armia
Lehkonen
Kotkaniemi
Mete
Weal

And they're already paying these 9 players $50,000,000:

Price
Weber
Petry
Drouin
Alzner
Edmundson
Chiarot
Byron
Kulak

So they have $32,000,000 leftover to sign all 9 guys.

Plus another 5 guys on top of that, so 14 total.

Good luck.


Would be able to write it on if I wasn't on Mobile but there are no concerns.

Tatar - If he stays 6 Million
Domi - If he stays 5.5-6 Million
Gallagher - If he stays 6-6.5 Million
Danault - If he stays 6 Million
Kotkaniemi - 3-4 Million bridge

That is 28 Million if we resign everyone that's core. The other players are intangibles that can be replaced if needed.
Sep. 26, 2020 at 9:33 a.m.
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You are right, thanks for telling me! It was not in the initial report that I saw, neither on CapFriendly at first.


Its pretty much the same he had before except now he has a NMC so we have to protect him in the expansion draft
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Sep. 26, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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Difference is Petry got 6.25 and Pietragelo will get 9+. Petry can become a #4 and still be worth his contract. Pietrangelo has to be a #1 to be worth his.


Don't know why you say PIetrangelo will get 9 plus. Just the not the cap available to spend that much, in a flat cap league and where RFAs are now earning more. It post Covid 2020.
Sep. 26, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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No it's because Pietrangelo is way better than Petry.


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Tell me how


Pietrangelo came 4th place in Norris voting this year (160 out of 160 voters gave him a top 5 vote - every single one).
Jeff Petry was left off a long list of Norris candidates this year (literally zero out of 160 voters game him a top 5 vote).

Every single member of the Professional Hockey Writers Association thinks Pietrangelo is better than Petry.

Why don't you ask them?
Sep. 26, 2020 at 11:15 a.m.
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Would be able to write it on if I wasn't on Mobile but there are no concerns.

Tatar - If he stays 6 Million
Domi - If he stays 5.5-6 Million
Gallagher - If he stays 6-6.5 Million
Danault - If he stays 6 Million
Kotkaniemi - 3-4 Million bridge

That is 28 Million if we resign everyone that's core. The other players are intangibles that can be replaced if needed.


Ok that's fair.

But even in the situation you're describing, you're now left with $4,000,000 in cap space to fill the 9 remaining roster spots.

It doesn't pan out.
Sep. 26, 2020 at 12:55 p.m.
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Don't know why you say PIetrangelo will get 9 plus. Just the not the cap available to spend that much, in a flat cap league and where RFAs are now earning more. It post Covid 2020.


Pietrangelo reported rejected an 8x8 contract. He's going to want more than that especially is he can only get 7 years
Sep. 26, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.
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Pietrangelo came 4th place in Norris voting this year (160 out of 160 voters gave him a top 5 vote - every single one).
Jeff Petry was left off a long list of Norris candidates this year (literally zero out of 160 voters game him a top 5 vote).

Every single member of the Professional Hockey Writers Association thinks Pietrangelo is better than Petry.

Why don't you ask them?


3 people also left Mackinnon off of their ballot for MVP that vote means nothing
Sep. 26, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
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Ok that's fair.

But even in the situation you're describing, you're now left with $4,000,000 in cap space to fill the 9 remaining roster spots.

It doesn't pan out.


That's if we resign everybody. There's going to be younger players that replace them. You also aren't factoring Alzner being in the AHL
Sep. 26, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.
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By next season, Montreal has to re-sign these 9 players:
Weal


Lmao
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Sep. 26, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.
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Lmao


i actually only added weal the make both groups have 9 players lol.
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Sep. 26, 2020 at 6:45 p.m.
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That's if we resign everybody. There's going to be younger players that replace them. You also aren't factoring Alzner being in the AHL


Alzner in the AHL saves 1.1 million and adds another player needed to replace him.

its basically a wash.
Sep. 26, 2020 at 6:46 p.m.
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3 people also left Mackinnon off of their ballot for MVP that vote means nothing


160 to zero.

just stop please.
Sep. 26, 2020 at 7:01 p.m.
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Alzner in the AHL saves 1.1 million and adds another player needed to replace him.

its basically a wash.


I don’t think it’ll cost too much to replace our 6th best AHL defenseman. Sticking Out Tongue
Sep. 26, 2020 at 7:39 p.m.
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Alzner in the AHL saves 1.1 million and adds another player needed to replace him.

its basically a wash.


400k is 400k
Sep. 26, 2020 at 7:42 p.m.
#174
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160 to zero.

just stop please.


Meant Draisaitl my B
Sep. 26, 2020 at 10:07 p.m.
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Pietrangelo reported rejected an 8x8 contract. He's going to want more than that especially is he can only get 7 years


Apparently he rejected 8.5m contract pre Covid. Apparently the Blues offered 7.7m recently....but lets say 8m. So what if Pietrangelo rejected 8m, sure doesn't mean he going to get offered 9m from any team. And certainly good teams...almost are close to the cap, aren't going to dismantle their lineup to fit in Pietrangelo.
 
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