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Rumors and other Sports Writers Speculation

Created by: will9739
Team: 2020-21 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 25, 2020
Published: Sep. 25, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This AGM is based on rumors I've read on the internet sports pages combined with what some sports writers opinions are and trades/signings they suggest. I didn't pull the cap hit or the term out of the air; it's what the writers suggested any such deal would have to look like. This is just an exercise to see what this team would look like. There's no need for the usual "... will never sign in Detroit," "... will never waive his NTC" or "... wants to play for a contender." It's a given that all of those comments are applicable to most of these moves. The Werenski/Mantha trade was suggested on "winging-it-in-motown" linked at SB Nation.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,250,000
7$6,500,000
1$700,000
1$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
7$10,000,000
6$6,000,000
Trades
1.
2.
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  1. 2020 2nd round pick (WSH)
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,643,847$0$2,202,500$4,856,153
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$10,000,000$10,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$714,166$714,166 (Performance Bonus$157,500$158K)
RD
RFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
UFA - 6
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
RD
RFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$775,833$775,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$6,083,333$6,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
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Hall wants to win. No winning in Detroit for another 4 seasons.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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As a wings fan I would never give that up for tj
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
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Take more then Mantha for Zach Werenski, Columbus needs Centers not more wingers. Hall isn't wasting his time in Detroit he wants a contender not a rebuilding club. Markstrom for 6 x 6 i can possibly see.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
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As a wings fan I would never give that up for tj


and do you think that he'll waive for Detroit? He has a FULL NMC for another season
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:16 p.m.
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Quoting: alpine4life
and do you think that he'll waive for Detroit? He has a FULL NMC for another season


I wouldn't care if he did, I wouldn't take him

He might, going from a 4C now to a 2C is better for him

He's behind
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Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:16 p.m.
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FWIW no team is helping Tampa out of their cap issues, Tyler Johnson in now way is worth 2 2nd round picks. I wouldn't give more then a 3rd for him.
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Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: alpine4life
and do you think that he'll waive for Detroit? He has a FULL NMC for another season


He has a Full NTC, And yeah to play under Yzerman again to to play 2C i think he would.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: buffbry
I wouldn't care if he did, I wouldn't take him

He might, going from a 4C now to a 2C is better for him

He's behind
Point
Stamkos
Cirelli

He doesn’t play C in TB much anymore, neither does Stammer for that matter. His play is going down hill fast, while a contender will prob pay a late 2nd/3rd for him, Det shouldn’t even consider it unless they’re getting a asset as well.
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Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
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Oh, and I absolutely make that Mantha trade if I’m Stevie.... which prob means it’s not fair value...
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Stevierebz
He doesn’t play C in TB much anymore, neither does Stammer for that matter. His play is going down hill fast, while a contender will prob pay a late 2nd/3rd for him, Det shouldn’t even consider it unless they’re getting a asset as well.


That is correct major assets for that contract
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Hall wants to win. No winning in Detroit for another 4 seasons.

Did you read the team description, Cpt Obvious or did you head straight here to reinforce what I had already written?
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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As a wings fan I would never give that up for tj

Neither would I.
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Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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Tyler Johnson is Yzerman's kind of player, but I don't see Detroit paying that for him. Only if there's multiple contenders interested in him will he fetch that, and Detroit isn't a contender. TJ could end up in Detroit for Future Considerations though.
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Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.
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Did you read the team description, Cpt Obvious or did you head straight here to reinforce what I had already written?


I read it, I felt it needed to be reiterated since you disregarded the fact when signing Hall.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 3:57 p.m.
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Who on SBN suggested that Werenski/Mantha trade? Because if Jarmo made that deal, he'd deserve to be fired, then fired from a cannon into the sun.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 4:12 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
I read it, I felt it needed to be reiterated since you disregarded the fact when signing Hall.

One thing I’ve noticed on here is Canes fans are real AZZ-Hats.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
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One thing I’ve noticed on here is Canes fans are real AZZ-Hats.


well one is. You just disregarded your own guidance by signing Hall. It was worth pointing out. Worst team in the league calls top UFA forward. Hi yes we know you want to win but would you be willing to forgo that to be on our dumpster fire? Oh your not, well thanks for your time.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 4:23 p.m.
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Who on SBN suggested that Werenski/Mantha trade? Because if Jarmo made that deal, he'd deserve to be fired, then fired from a cannon into the sun.


I completely screwed that citation up ... oops Confused . It was Jack Sznewajs of "winging-it-in-motown" linked at SB Nation. In his story he suggest packaging Mantha to acquire Werenski. Not having any clue what should be added to a Mantha for Werenski package I just did the one for one swap.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
well one is. You just disregarded your own guidance by signing Hall. It was worth pointing out. Worst team in the league calls top UFA forward. Hi yes we know you want to win but would you be willing to forgo that to be on our dumpster fire? Oh your not, well thanks for your time.


"This is just an exercise to see what this team would look like." It's a very clear statement. Why don't you just go away, troll. Go to a Canes AGM and you and Caniac can yuck it up. Beat it.
Sep. 25, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.
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I completely screwed that citation up ... oops Confused . It was Jack Sznewajs of "winging-it-in-motown" linked at SB Nation. In his story he suggest packaging Mantha to acquire Werenski. Not having any clue what should be added to a Mantha for Werenski package I just did the one for one swap.


Ah, so it's less "credible NHL insider passes on what he's been hearing", and more "lunatic Red Wings fan wishcasts for local hero"
Sep. 25, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.
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Ah, so it's less "credible NHL insider passes on what he's been hearing", and more "lunatic Red Wings fan wishcasts for local hero"


Yep, I don't think that I tried to spin it other way.
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