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Jones for Laine

Created by: OutCold13
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 6, 2020
Published: Sep. 28, 2020
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Rumor has it Blue Jackets are in on Laine. If so is this close? Who adds and how much?
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:18 a.m.
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Bad for CBJ, GREAT for WPG
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:18 a.m.
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Columbus declines. By a lot.
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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i really feel like trading laine this early is a mistake
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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Might want to delete before Columbus fans rip you a new one
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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Not a fan of either team but Jones has tremendously more value. It would be horrible for Columbus.
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.
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Bad for CBJ, GREAT for WPG


There is another way to look at it though. Jones only has 2 years left under contract and is American, Winnipeg might have a hard time resigning him
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.
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Might want to delete before Columbus fans rip you a new one


Its just a question. I'm just curious on the market for Laine.
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
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wpg adds a lot
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.
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Its just a question. I'm just curious on the market for Laine.


He is already paid more than Jones and will be looking for 10+ next year ( I don't think he is worth it ) Jones is by far Columbus best dman and probably the best RHD in the league. It would be Laine Winnipeg's best d prospect this year's first and probably more
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
There is another way to look at it though. Jones only has 2 years left under contract and is American, Winnipeg might have a hard time resigning him


That was my thought when looking at it the other day (werenski or jones) and I feel the same could be said about Laine, but him being an rfa is more stomachable.
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.
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Quoting: TheOtherAuston
He is already paid more than Jones and will be looking for 10+ next year ( I don't think he is worth it ) Jones is by far Columbus best dman and probably the best RHD in the league. It would be Laine Winnipeg's best d prospect this year's first and probably more


I knew Jones is a future Norris winner. Had no idea his value was that high though.
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.
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I think CBJ easily declines this. Jones is just that valuable.
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Paul13
I knew Jones is a future Norris winner. Had no idea his value was that high though.


In a trade he is probably the most valuable RHD due to age and skill.
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
There is another way to look at it though. Jones only has 2 years left under contract and is American, Winnipeg might have a hard time resigning him


Maybe but that’s not really a Columbus problem. After all, they didn’t make this proposal.
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
Maybe but that’s not really a Columbus problem. After all, they didn’t make this proposal.


I'm not a Jets fan either just a guy curious about what Laines value is.
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.
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Columbus rejects this but Jones only has two years left, not really worth it for Winnipeg, adding Jones but subtracting Laine doesn't make the Jets anymore of a contender then they are now.
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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CBJ declines without thinking twice.
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Paul13
I'm not a Jets fan either just a guy curious about what Laines value is.


I mean he’s definitely valuable. But i wouldn’t want him on my team because he’s going to ask for too much money. He’s the type of player to change the pay culture of the team and create cap issues, in my opinion. And Seth Jones is one of the best defenseman in the league on a steal of a contract. I also don’t think Columbus is listening to trade offers so if any team wants him, they have to convince them to listen.
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:52 a.m.
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Jones is 2 years to UFA, Laine is 3 years to UFA but Jones has cost certainty which IMO will count for a lot for the next few years. Jones also has a 10 team NTC which Winnipeg is likely on, so it's pretty much a non-starter.

PLD is who I think the target would be for the Jets from Columbus. His Dad works for the Moose so having his family in the same city could be a plus for us. He needs a new contract but he'd be an amazing #2 behind Scheif. Leaves Columbus pretty thin at C though, so maybe we include their hometown kid in Roslovic and we get Anderson. Then they figure out their Center position from elsewhere.
Sep. 28, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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Jones is 2 years to UFA, Laine is 3 years to UFA but Jones has cost certainty which IMO will count for a lot for the next few years. Jones also has a 10 team NTC which Winnipeg is likely on, so it's pretty much a non-starter.

PLD is who I think the target would be for the Jets from Columbus. His Dad works for the Moose so having his family in the same city could be a plus for us. He needs a new contract but he'd be an amazing #2 behind Scheif. Leaves Columbus pretty thin at C though, so maybe we include their hometown kid in Roslovic and we get Anderson. Then they figure out their Center position from elsewhere.


wpg still adds, pld>laine
Sep. 28, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
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Quoting: vr1995
wpg still adds, pld>laine


I'm curious as to why you think so other than one is a C and the other is a W?

49 points in 70 games this year = 0.70 points per game this year and was at .74 the year before so trending similarly, but not upwards.
63 points in 68 games this year = 0.93 points per game this year and is at 0.81 per game for his career. Is trending upwards and likely tops a point per game pace next season.

PLD needs a new contract, so nobody knows what his ask may be.

Laine was drafted 2OA and PLD was taken 3OA that same year so the value was similar at that time, I just wonder why you would think that Winnipeg needs to add now? What are you basing it off of, because counting stats show it would be the other way.
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 11:58 a.m.
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Sorry, but that would be a pretty bad deal for Columbus and leaves a pretty big hole in the d core. With hall the injuries Columbus had last year, we stayed pretty competitive, but when Jones went out we won maybe 4 of the 15 or so games. I know Jones gets knocked for his pedestrian advanced stats, but he’s really important to Columbus. So realistically any trade involving Jones would have to included a top end center.
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I'm curious as to why you think so other than one is a C and the other is a W?

49 points in 70 games this year = 0.70 points per game this year and was at .74 the year before so trending similarly, but not upwards.
63 points in 68 games this year = 0.93 points per game this year and is at 0.81 per game for his career. Is trending upwards and likely tops a point per game pace next season.

PLD needs a new contract, so nobody knows what his ask may be.

Laine was drafted 2OA and PLD was taken 3OA that same year so the value was similar at that time, I just wonder why you would think that Winnipeg needs to add now? What are you basing it off of, because counting stats show it would be the other way.


its not all about stats, draistial had more points then mackinnon but mack is better, pastrnak had the most points on his line and hes probbaly the 3rd best player on that line all around dubois is better defensively and a better overall player and yes center plays a role, also cbj doesnt wanna get rid of their future number 1 center, if winnpeg truly wanted laine they wouldnt even entertain the thought of trading their 2nd overall pick, and yes at the draft but you can easily look now and probably have 4-5 players ahead of laine, look at nico hischier too he goes 4th if his draft happens again today
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Sep. 28, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
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I'm curious as to why you think so other than one is a C and the other is a W?

49 points in 70 games this year = 0.70 points per game this year and was at .74 the year before so trending similarly, but not upwards.
63 points in 68 games this year = 0.93 points per game this year and is at 0.81 per game for his career. Is trending upwards and likely tops a point per game pace next season.

PLD needs a new contract, so nobody knows what his ask may be.

Laine was drafted 2OA and PLD was taken 3OA that same year so the value was similar at that time, I just wonder why you would think that Winnipeg needs to add now? What are you basing it off of, because counting stats show it would be the other way.


It’s internal value, Laine is a wing, Columbus has plenty of wings, we’ve needed centers, so for them to move a center and that being their only actual top 6 center would have to be an extreme overpayment.
 
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