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Leafs possible lineup

Created by: Rylee92
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 29, 2020
Published: Sep. 29, 2020
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Free Agent Signings
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2$850,000
2$2,000,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
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1$1,000,000
1$1,750,000
3$5,250,000
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TOR
  1. Thomas, Robert
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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20$81,500,000$79,450,749$0$825,000$2,049,251
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
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C, LW
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UFA - 5
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
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UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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RD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
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UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.
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Worst defence in the nhl...possibly the world.
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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I very much hope this is not the roster. This team is worse than last years.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.
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dude no.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.
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I dont see how Simmonds is a fit in TO, they could use his physicality, but his skating is poor. I doubt Barrie resigns with them, someone will give him close to $5mil....and regret it.
Youre roster has 20 players...and no cap space, they should have 23 at the cap, otherwise they run into issues when injuries occur.

Why would Buffalo want Nylander and Kerfoot? If Okposo is healthy then youre looking at both of them on the 3rd line...while they give up a top pairing dman and a high 1st? Not happening. Toronto cant afford Staal as a 3rd liner, unless the Sabres eat some of his salary- again very unlikely.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.
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Ristolainen isn't really the guy we need. He is all offence.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.
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Quoting: rollie1967
I dont see how Simmonds is a fit in TO, they could use his physicality, but his skating is poor. I doubt Barrie resigns with them, someone will give him close to $5mil....and regret it.
Youre roster has 20 players...and no cap space, they should have 23 at the cap, otherwise they run into issues when injuries occur.

Why would Buffalo want Nylander and Kerfoot? If Okposo is healthy then youre looking at both of them on the 3rd line...while they give up a top pairing dman and a high 1st? Not happening. Toronto cant afford Staal as a 3rd liner, unless the Sabres eat some of his salary- again very unlikely.


Buffalo takes that deal and runs...
Sep. 29, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.
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Can't decide between being annoyed that I'm still seeing awful one sided trades from Leafs fans for the Blues' best players or just being thankful that it just isn't a Parayko trade for once
Sep. 29, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.
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Lol over/under how many times a game the Rielly pair takes the puck out of their own net to hand over to the ref? 6?
Sep. 29, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.
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Quoting: rollie1967
I dont see how Simmonds is a fit in TO, they could use his physicality, but his skating is poor. I doubt Barrie resigns with them, someone will give him close to $5mil....and regret it.
Youre roster has 20 players...and no cap space, they should have 23 at the cap, otherwise they run into issues when injuries occur.

Why would Buffalo want Nylander and Kerfoot? If Okposo is healthy then youre looking at both of them on the 3rd line...while they give up a top pairing dman and a high 1st? Not happening. Toronto cant afford Staal as a 3rd liner, unless the Sabres eat some of his salary- again very unlikely.


Lol Nylander would play first line, does not matter who is healthy for Buffalo. It's not even a question. He would be their 2nd best player, and I'm higher than most on S.R. Ristolainen is a first pair guy? Sure, if he's next to Hedmen.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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Lol Nylander would play first line, does not matter who is healthy for Buffalo. It's not even a question. He would be their 2nd best player, and I'm higher than most on S.R. Ristolainen is a first pair guy? Sure, if he's next to Hedmen.


Reinhart, Olofsson and Skinner are the 3 that would play ahead of Nylander- he might beat one of them, but not 2. He would be playing 2nd line at best with either Staal or Middlestadt. The problem for Buffalo is that Risto is a top pairing dman- and they cant afford to lose him without shoring up their d corps, so regardless of your opinion- he has been a top pairing dman in Buffalo for years, and would be a top pairing in TO as well (not that thats saying much).
Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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Can't decide between being annoyed that I'm still seeing awful one sided trades from Leafs fans for the Blues' best players or just being thankful that it just isn't a Parayko trade for once


Exactly how one sided is getting 8th overall for Thomas? Not saying that blues would make that trade, especially with tank being out possibly depending on when the season starts. But leafs fans are even more sick and tired of hearing unwarranted complaints.

Also calling Thomas one of your best players is a real shot at your top tier players. He is a good young player with potential to do more,
Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:39 p.m.
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Quoting: rollie1967
Reinhart, Olofsson and Skinner are the 3 that would play ahead of Nylander- he might beat one of them, but not 2. He would be playing 2nd line at best with either Staal or Middlestadt. The problem for Buffalo is that Risto is a top pairing dman- and they cant afford to lose him without shoring up their d corps, so regardless of your opinion- he has been a top pairing dman in Buffalo for years, and would be a top pairing in TO as well (not that thats saying much).


1.Eichel 2.nylander 3.reinhart the rest is debatable.
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Exactly how one sided is getting 8th overall for Thomas? Not saying that blues would make that trade, especially with tank being out possibly depending on when the season starts. But leafs fans are even more sick and tired of hearing unwarranted complaints.

Also calling Thomas one of your best players is a real shot at your top tier players. He is a good young player with potential to do more,


The issue is that the blues are in cup contention window with maybe 2 years arguably left according to Army. So trading thomas who outperforms his elc contract and fits into their long-term plans is what doesn't make sense. Trading for the 8th overall is ideal for any team and I might be willing to part thomas for it. But thomas is growing into a top 6 forward and we need him now. So both teams would be taking a big gamble on this
Sep. 29, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.
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Reinhart, Olofsson and Skinner are the 3 that would play ahead of Nylander- he might beat one of them, but not 2. He would be playing 2nd line at best with either Staal or Middlestadt. The problem for Buffalo is that Risto is a top pairing dman- and they cant afford to lose him without shoring up their d corps, so regardless of your opinion- he has been a top pairing dman in Buffalo for years, and would be a top pairing in TO as well (not that thats saying much).


Lol explain how those three would play ahead of Nylander? He is better than all three, has better stats. Only Skinner in his prime might be close, but he is never going to be as good as he was the first year. Last year he was dreadful. Yes, good point on Ristolainen, he is a 1st dman by default. And every sub-par winger that has played next to McDavid is a first line player. Toronto's 2 LHD are better than Ristolainen.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Exactly how one sided is getting 8th overall for Thomas? Not saying that blues would make that trade, especially with tank being out possibly depending on when the season starts. But leafs fans are even more sick and tired of hearing unwarranted complaints.

Also calling Thomas one of your best players is a real shot at your top tier players. He is a good young player with potential to do more,


Here is why it is one-sided. Look at it from the Blues' perspective. This year, Thomas outperformed Bozak for the 3C job and briefly, Schenn for the 2C job as a 20 year old. He is on an ELC. He is a natural centerman. He has drastically improved year-over-year since becoming an NHL player. He is clearly in the top ten best players from the 2017 draft as it currently stands. He looks like he will be a top six center for the rest of his time with the Blues. In addition, the Blues believe they are contenders right now, and their core isn't getting any younger ( Schenn, O'Reilly, Tarasenko, Parayko, Schwartz are all over 27+, Pietrangelo too if he stays though I'm assuming he hasn't because Holl is coming back in this trade) so we can assume that they'll mortgage whatever future Thomas has and look for immediate improvement next year.

Likely available at #8: Maybe Rossi though I doubt it, Quinn, Sanderson, Lundell, Holtz. Most of those players are good (not Sanderson) and would be excellent additions to the Blues on paper. But are any of those players going to step in and probably challenge for the 2C spot on this team next year? No? Then it's not a better situation then the Blues have right now. Picks are magic beans. The #8 pick is a pretty good magic bean, but at the end of the day you take the established player over magic beans every day of the week, especially when they are making the same amount of money and your window is wide open.

We could trade the pick I guess, but what kind of trade is going to be better than a top nine center making less than a million whose floor is forty points?

I get that you feel it's unwarranted complaints but if you consider how the Blues view their roster (as contenders), then this trade is only good for the leafs. The value is fine- maybe- but it makes no sense for the Blues, which is why it is one sided. I'm really not trying to be a dick about this, but if you want people to stop bashing on Leafs fans for trades then you guys gotta start thinking about stuff other than your own team. And this isn't exclusive to leafs fans, all fans are guilty of this, including my own, but the Leafs come after the Blues for our stuff all the time and there's so many more of you on here that there's going to be more dumb trades by leafs fans than anyone else. The Leafs are the most popular and richest team in the league, I'm sure you can weather some complaints on capfriendly.

As for calling Thomas one of our best player- who would you definitely say is better? O'Reilly, Pietrangelo if he's still on the team...? Anyone else? Maybe Tarasenko, if he still has a career as an elite player after a third shoulder surgery? Maybe Parayko, but I think we're splitting hairs between a 27 year old maybe top pairing RHD and a 20 year old maybe top line center, and one of those is not in their prime yet. You can call 32 year old Perron and 29 year old Schenn better and I guess you're technically correct as they had more productive years but Thomas wasn't far behind them with 42 points, had better underlying numbers and, again, age and position is a big factor here.
 
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