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Initial Creation Date: Sep. 30, 2020

Published: Sep. 30, 2020

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Im probably forgetting a couple guys so I might update this

note that each position tier is separate from tiers in other positions - guys winger tier 2 are not necessarily better than centres in tier 3

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
88	$81,500,000	$445,760,114	$0	$14,200,000	-$364,260,114

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tier, One $1,000,000$1,000,000	Tier, One $1,000,000$1,000,000	Tier, One $1,000,000$1,000,000
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 6	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 6	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 7
Marchand, Brad $6,125,000$6,125,000 LW NMC UFA - 5	MacKinnon, Nathan $6,300,000$6,300,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Pastrnak, David $6,666,667$6,666,667 RW UFA - 3
Ovechkin, Alex $9,538,462$9,538,462 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 7
Tier, Two $1,000,000$1,000,000	Tier, Two $1,000,000$1,000,000	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 3
Huberdeau, Jonathan $5,900,000$5,900,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 3	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Tier, Two $1,000,000$1,000,000
Svechnikov, Andrei $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) LW, RW UFA - 1	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
Hall, Taylor $1,000,000$1,000,000	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 5	Rantanen, Mikko $9,250,000$9,250,000 RW, C UFA - 5
Tkachuk, Matthew $7,000,000$7,000,000 RW UFA - 2	Tier, Three $1,000,000$1,000,000	Tier, Three $1,000,000$1,000,000
Tier, Three $1,000,000$1,000,000	Couturier, Sean $4,333,333$4,333,333 C UFA - 2	Tarasenko, Vladimir $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
Connor, Kyle $7,142,857$7,142,857 LW UFA - 6	Aho, Sebastian $8,460,250$8,460,250 C UFA - 4	Wheeler, Blake $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Bergeron, Patrice $6,875,000$6,875,000 C M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 4
Laine, Patrik $4,995,000$4,995,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 4
Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 4	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Giroux, Claude $4,137,500$4,137,500 RW, C NMC UFA - 2	Point, Brayden $6,750,000$6,750,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 1
Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 3	Pettersson, Elias $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C, LW UFA - 1	Mantha, Anthony $1,000,000$1,000,000
Gaudreau, Johnny $6,750,000$6,750,000 LW UFA - 2	O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000$1,875,000 C UFA - 3
Landeskog, Gabriel $5,571,429$5,571,429 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Barzal, Matthew $1,000,000$1,000,000
	Scheifele, Mark $6,125,000$6,125,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4
	Barkov, Aleksander $5,900,000$5,900,000 C NMC UFA - 2
	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 2
	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Tier, One $1,000,000$1,000,000		Tier, One $1,000,000$1,000,000
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 5		Hellebuyck, Connor $6,166,667$6,166,667 G UFA - 4
Josi, Roman $9,059,000$9,059,000 LD NMC UFA - 8		Vasilevskiy, Andrei $9,500,000$9,500,000 G UFA - 8
Pietrangelo, Alex $1,000,000$1,000,000		Rask, Tuukka $7,000,000$7,000,000 G UFA - 1
Tier, Two $1,000,000$1,000,000		Tier, Two $1,000,000$1,000,000
Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 6		Lehner, Robin $1,000,000$1,000,000
Jones, Seth $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2		Bishop, Ben $4,916,667$4,916,667 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Heiskanen, Miro $894,166$894,166 ($2,500,000$2M) LD/RD UFA - 1		Markstrom, Jacob $1,000,000$1,000,000
Makar, Cale $880,833$880,833 ($2,500,000$2M) RD UFA - 1		Ranking more goalies is pointless, since they change so much year to year $1,000,000$1,000,000
Hughes, Quinn $916,667$916,667 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 1		And many of them, have small sample sizes anyway $1,000,000$1,000,000
Tier, Three $1,000,000$1,000,000
Theodore, Shea $5,200,000$5,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 5
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 8
Parayko, Colton $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD UFA - 2
Slavin, Jaccob $5,300,000$5,300,000 LD UFA - 5
Hamilton, Dougie $5,750,000$5,750,000 RD UFA - 1
Dahlin, Rasmus $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LD/RD UFA - 1
Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 7
Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 6
McAvoy, Charlie $4,900,000$4,900,000 RD UFA - 2

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FORWARDS (56)
Right Wing: One Tier ($1,000,000) - Nikita Kucherov ($9,500,000) - David Pastrnak ($6,666,667) - Mark Stone ($9,500,000) - Patrick Kane ($2,625,000) - Two Tier ($1,000,000) - Mitchell Marner ($10,903,000) - Mikko Rantanen ($9,250,000) - Three Tier ($1,000,000) - Vladimir Tarasenko ($3,750,000) - Blake Wheeler ($8,250,000) - Elias Lindholm ($4,850,000) - William Nylander ($6,962,366) - Travis Konecny ($5,500,000) - Brendan Gallagher ($3,750,000) - Anthony Mantha ($1,000,000)
Centre: One Tier ($1,000,000) - Connor McDavid ($12,500,000) - Nathan MacKinnon ($6,300,000) - Sidney Crosby ($8,700,000) - Two Tier ($1,000,000) - Auston Matthews ($11,640,250) - Jack Eichel ($10,000,000) - Leon Draisaitl ($8,500,000) - Three Tier ($1,000,000) - Sean Couturier ($4,333,333) - Sebastian Aho ($8,460,250) - Patrice Bergeron ($6,875,000) - Evgeni Malkin ($9,500,000) - Steven Stamkos ($8,500,000) - Brayden Point ($6,750,000) - Elias Pettersson ($925,000) - Ryan O'Reilly ($1,875,000) - Matthew Barzal ($1,000,000) - Mark Scheifele ($6,125,000) - Aleksander Barkov ($5,900,000) - Mika Zibanejad ($5,350,000) - John Tavares ($11,000,000)
Left Wing: One Tier ($1,000,000) - Artemi Panarin ($11,642,857) - Brad Marchand ($6,125,000) - Alex Ovechkin ($9,538,462) - Two Tier ($1,000,000) - Jonathan Huberdeau ($5,900,000) - Andrei Svechnikov ($925,000) - Taylor Hall ($1,000,000) - Matthew Tkachuk ($7,000,000) - Three Tier ($1,000,000) - Kyle Connor ($7,142,857) - Jake Guentzel ($4,500,000) - Patrik Laine ($4,995,000) - Max Pacioretty ($7,000,000) - Claude Giroux ($4,137,500) - J.T. Miller ($5,250,000) - Johnny Gaudreau ($6,750,000) - Gabriel Landeskog ($5,571,429)

DEFENSE (25)
Right: 
Left: One Tier ($1,000,000) - Victor Hedman ($7,875,000) - Roman Josi ($9,059,000) - Alex Pietrangelo ($1,000,000) - Two Tier ($1,000,000) - John Carlson ($8,000,000) - Seth Jones ($5,400,000) - Miro Heiskanen ($894,166) - Cale Makar ($880,833) - Quinn Hughes ($916,667) - Three Tier ($1,000,000) - Shea Theodore ($5,200,000) - Morgan Rielly ($5,000,000) - Thomas Chabot ($8,000,000) - Colton Parayko ($5,500,000) - Jaccob Slavin ($5,300,000) - Dougie Hamilton ($5,750,000) - Rasmus Dahlin ($925,000) - Ryan Ellis ($6,250,000) - Kris Letang ($7,250,000) - Shea Weber ($7,857,143) - Charlie McAvoy ($4,900,000)

GOALTENDER (10)
One Tier ($1,000,000) - Connor Hellebuyck ($6,166,667) - Andrei Vasilevskiy ($9,500,000) - Tuukka Rask ($7,000,000) - Two Tier ($1,000,000) - Robin Lehner ($1,000,000) - Ben Bishop ($4,916,667) - Jacob Markstrom ($1,000,000) - since they change so much year to year Ranking more goalies is pointless ($1,000,000) - have small sample sizes anyway And many of them ($1,000,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 88
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Cap Hit: $445,760,114
Cap Space: -$364,260,114

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.

bhavikp27

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Pettersson that low...

No McAvoy, Spurgeon, Ellis but Dahlin, Letang, Weber okay

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Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.

SouthHockey29

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Where is Ekblad and Bobrovsky

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: SouthHockey29

Where is Ekblad and Bobrovsky

not good enough imo

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.

DH28Hockey

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The defense and LW in particular seem really off, I mostly agree with the rest though

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Pettersson that low...

No McAvoy, Spurgeon, Ellis but Dahlin, Letang, Weber okay

its a tier ranking not necessarily in order - Petterson is in tier 3 which is top 7-17 centres

Ill add Ellis but imo McAvoy and Spurgeon would just miss tier 3 of defense

EDIT: actually McAvoy could be slotted into tier 3 too

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: DH28Hockey

The defense and LW in particular seem really off, I mostly agree with the rest though

what would you change in LW and D

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:32 p.m.

sedin33

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Pettersson > Eichel

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: sedin33

Pettersson > Eichel

As of right now Eichel is better imo. maybe Pettersson will catch up in the next few years though

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.

BigOaf69

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Malkin underappreciated again

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.

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Jeuck75

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I'd switch Makar and Pietrangelo

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.

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sedin33

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Quoting: moli92

As of right now Eichel is better imo. maybe Pettersson will catch up in the next few years though

Definitely subjective.

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.

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Quoting: moli92

Yeesh. I can’t see putting mcavoy much, if at all below makar and Hughes. Very different styles, but there’s a reason mcavoy was 10th in the Norris race even though he’s not a points machine.

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.

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UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: sedin33

Definitely subjective.

Well yeah obviously, every tier list or player ranking is subjective

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.

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sedin33

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Quoting: moli92

Well yeah obviously, every tier list or player ranking is subjective

My point is that you don't provide any support for your opinion. Your answer is that it's your opinion. Maybe provide some rationale.

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.

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DH28Hockey

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Quoting: moli92

what would you change in LW and D

Gaudreau, Giroux, Landeskog all higher with Hall and Svechnikov lower are the big ones that stick out. Defense I disagree with a ton. Where are Burns, Karlsson, Provorov, Brodin, Spurgeon, Werenski, Ekblad, Krug, to name a few omitted that 100% belong on there.

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.

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UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: sedin33

My point is that you don't provide any support for your opinion. Your answer is that it's your opinion. Maybe provide some rationale.

well you didnt either... honestly im not interested in getting into a debate about who is better - I just made a subjective list for fun. I dont have enough time to gather stats and stuff to justify why I think certain players are ranked higher or lower than others. You can think Pettersson is better and I can think Eichel is better

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:45 p.m.

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sedin33

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Quoting: moli92

FAir enought

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:48 p.m.

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Wadejos123

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the disrespect to toews

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.

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UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: DH28Hockey

Imo Svech is better than everyone in LW tier 3, but Hall coming off of a down year I see him as Tier 2/3 border. Just depends how much you value previous seasons vs this season only. Landy, Gaudreau, Giroux are all tier 3, which is between 8-15 best LWs (which imo is very fair for those guys). The order in which they appear in the list doesnt matter.

For Defense I think most of the guys you listed just miss tier 3, but would be on the list if I extended to tier 4

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:50 p.m.

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UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: Wadejos123

the disrespect to toews

I think hes in the same Tier as Kopitar, PLD, Seguin, etc. Definitely would be tier 4 if I made this longer. I cant see him being put over any of the Cs I have listed here though tbh

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.

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UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

Yeesh. I can’t see putting mcavoy much, if at all below makar and Hughes. Very different styles, but there’s a reason mcavoy was 10th in the Norris race even though he’s not a points machine.

I dont agree with a lot of NHL awards voting tbh - for example Esa Lindell was 11th in Norris voting (btw im not comparing McAvoy to Lindell, just giving an example). I added McAvoy to tier 3, but tbh I dont think he is on the same level as Makar and Hughes. People value different playstyles differently, on a list of purely defensive defensemen McAvoy would be a lot higher

Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.

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mondo

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I like tier lists over-ordered rankings since everyone fights over guys who positions can be switched based on personal preferences or biases.

Personally, I'd have Hall in the third tier for LW and Tavares in the third tier for C.

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Sep. 30, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.

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UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: mondo

I mentioned in another comment Hall is kinda on the tier 2/3 border for me, just depends how much weight you put into past seasons vs this season

I definitely forgot about Tavares - Ill add him to tier 3

Sep. 30, 2020 at 6:18 p.m.

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Bcarlo25

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Quoting: moli92

Okay, so. Hmmmm
I don’t think you’ve ever seen mcavoy play if you’re going to call him a purely defensive defensemen. I’m not saying that to call you out or something, but i just think you’re drastically not getting his value. He’s the bruins best player. Bruins are pretty good.

Sep. 30, 2020 at 6:31 p.m.

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habs1289

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Price should definitely be at minimum a tier 2 goalie def before bishop / markstrom etc...

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