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Created by: buchiegang

Team: 2020-21 Los Angeles Kings

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 1, 2020

Published: Oct. 1, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Out of the teams who are rumored to be seriously interested, I think LAK has the most to offer. Return is reduced a TAD to take back Perrault. WPG gets a 2C, a cheap Top 4 RD, a large amount of cap space to chase FAs, a high high 2nd a potentially high 1st, and a decent winger prospect. LAK get a high impact winger who is young enough to fit into there core. Let me know if the value needs to be adjusted at all...

Trades

LAK

WPG

Grundström, Carl
Kempe, Adrian
Roy, Matt
2020 2nd round pick (LAK)
2021 1st round pick (LAK)

Additional Details:

2021 1st Top 10 protected

Buyouts

Dion Phaneuf: $4,062,500

Termination Fees

Mike Richards: $700,000
Ilya Kovalchuk: $6,250,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
17	$81,500,000	$64,504,697	$0	$1,700,000	$16,995,303

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Laine, Patrik $4,995,000$4,995,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1	Kopitar, Anze $10,000,000$10,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Brown, Dustin $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Iafallo, Alex $2,425,000$2,425,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Carter, Jeff $2,636,364$2,636,364 RW, C UFA - 2	Wagner, Austin $1,133,333$1,133,333 RW, LW UFA - 3
Perreault, Mathieu $4,125,000$4,125,000 LW, RW, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Vilardi, Gabriel $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, C RFA - 2	Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Amadio, Michael $700,000$700,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Frk, Martin $725,000$725,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Anderson, Michael $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 2	Doughty, Drew $11,000,000$11,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 7	Quick, Jonathan $2,900,000$2,900,000 G UFA - 3
	Walker, Sean $2,650,000$2,650,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Petersen, Cal $858,333$858,333 G UFA - 2
	MacDermid, Kurtis $875,000$875,000 LD/RD, LW UFA - 2

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:26 p.m.

csick

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I don’t know if LA goes after Laine since they’re getting Stutzle but the value is still missing here

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:26 p.m.

BuckoJoyde

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cant pull a fast one like that.

Los Angeles Kings

2ND Overall

Winnipeg Jets

Laine

is the gist

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:26 p.m.

buchiegang

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Quoting: csick

I don’t know if they do it since they’re getting Stutzle but the value is still missing here

They keep their pick their year so they still get Stutzle

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:27 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: buchiegang

They keep their pick their year so they still get Stutzle

Yes but I mean if they get Stutzle, I don’t know if they’d be interested in Laine

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:27 p.m.

buchiegang

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Quoting: BuckoJoyde

cant pull a fast one like that.

Los Angeles Kings

2ND Overall

Winnipeg Jets

Laine

is the gist

Not likely......

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:28 p.m.

BuckoJoyde

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Quoting: buchiegang

Not likely......

well then if thats the case I can think of many teams being able to outbid this offer.

Edit: to clarify not saying its probable but if im WPG and im negotiating with LA second overall or Turcotte has to be in the trade.

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:28 p.m.

buchiegang

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Quoting: csick

Yes but I mean if they get Stutzle, I don’t know if they’d be interested in Laine

Idk I think it’s still a great fit. If Stutzle ends up as a winger, Laine can play RW

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:28 p.m.

bunzy1034

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Isn't Adrian Kempe a pure winger? I like him but I don't think he is a center

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:29 p.m.

buchiegang

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Quoting: BuckoJoyde

well then if thats the case I can think of many teams being able to outbid this offer.

For example?

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:29 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: bunzy1034

Isn't Adrian Kempe a pure winger? I like him but I don't think he is a center

I don’t think he should be the centrepiece of a Laine trade tho

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:29 p.m.

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ajm

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With Laine gone, the Jets are gonna want a 2C that can actually drive a line properly. Kempe could theoretically produce as a half decent 2C playing with Ehlers and Laine, but with Laine gone they're gonna need someone back better than that or it just makes the team a whole lot worse

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:30 p.m.

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bunzy1034

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think he should be the centrepiece of a Laine trade tho

yeah we would be able to get something more exciting back as the centrepiece most likely

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:30 p.m.

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Quoting: bunzy1034

Isn't Adrian Kempe a pure winger? I like him but I don't think he is a center

Seems like he plays both but is FO numbers are putrid so maybe he’s not best there...

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:31 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: bunzy1034

yeah we would be able to get something more exciting back as the centrepiece most likely

If Lucas Raymond is gone at 5, I’ll trade you 5 and Logan Brown for him.

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:32 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

If Lucas Raymond is gone at 5, I’ll trade you 5 and Logan Brown for him.

Yeah I got to think Chevy would like that, he loves drafting so I bet he values that pick extremely high

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:33 p.m.

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Quoting: ajm

Fair enough but what if with that cap space you sign someone like Hall or Hoffman and run a top 6 of: Connor-Scheiffle-Wheeler Hall/Hoffman-Kempe-Ehlers. Not saying it’s ideal but...

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.

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ajm

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Quoting: ajm

To expand on this, the jets already have an adrian kempe in their system but he's younger and plays essentially the same role. Roslovic and Kempe are both players drafted at center, have seen top 6 time on the wing but haven't been trusted to play center in the top 6 for good reason. If the Jets were interested in using a kempe type as an experiment at 2C, they don't have to look beyond their current roster

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.

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BuckoJoyde

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Quoting: buchiegang

For example?

Not gonna set up a trade for each team. Just wouldnt be shocked if these teams were enticed to make an offer if this really got the interest of WPG's management.
Anaheim
Nashville
Montreal
Ottawa if they were willing to give up picks
Chicago
Calgary
Flyers
All these team imo. Not saying they should or will. But this is a lackluster offer for an RFA on the brink of being a consistent 40 goal scorer.

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.

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tryger

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I think it's a bit to the advantage of the Kings here. Kempe works better as a winger they tried him as a center and it sort of throws his game off, I think the Kings would probably be crazy not to take this deal. Kempe, Grunstrom, a high 2nd rounder, and a protected 1st is a steal. The Kings could probably flip this at the deadline while retaining and get more back.

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:39 p.m.

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ajm

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Quoting: buchiegang

Fair enough but what if with that cap space you sign someone like Hall or Hoffman and run a top 6 of: Connor-Scheiffle-Wheeler Hall/Hoffman-Kempe-Ehlers. Not saying it’s ideal but...

Hoffman is 31 next season and Hall has had injury problems the last few years. I would hope chevy is smarter than to sign either of those guys to any term

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:40 p.m.

#21

DillBaley

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This is a complete steal for the Kings.
I don't think they get Laine without giving up Vilardi or Turcotte.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:41 p.m.

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buchiegang

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Quoting: tryger

Yeah I think undervalued Laine a good amount here. I’m just reluctant to think he’ll get a kings ransom (no pun intended lol). He just seems so one dimensional even though he does that one thing damn well...

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:45 p.m.

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buchiegang

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Quoting: ajm

Hoffman is 31 next season and Hall has had injury problems the last few years. I would hope chevy is smarter than to sign either of those guys to any term

Ya but if you can get Hoffman on a 4 year deal or Hall under 10m I say you do it. But at any rate, WPG can do better for Line so it’s moot...

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Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:46 p.m.

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I think Laine’s lived up to his 2nd overall potential and more so far in the NHL. The 2nd oa pick from LA would most likely be the price.

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