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Alright Lets give Laine a go

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Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 2, 2020
Published: Oct. 2, 2020
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Let me be clear.... I absolutely do not want Laine to go... His best hockey is 100% ahead of him. However, it seems more and more likely that this is going to happen. So, this is the kind of deal that I would like to see.

I know everyone wants to undersell Laine, but he has a skillset that can't be taught... the rest of his game has improved year over year. He has 50 goal potential, and that costs big time.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
2$2,750,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
8$7,000,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,650,000
1$1,250,000
1$1,000,000
2$2,750,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Konecny, Travis
  2. Myers, Philippe [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PHI)
2.
WPG
  1. 2020 4th round pick (NJD)
3.
WPG
  1. Cirelli, Anthony [RFA Rights]
TBL
  1. Stanley, Logan
  2. Vesalainen, Kristian
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PHI)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,442,858$0$282,500$2,057,142

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,280,000$2,280,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,916,667$2,916,667
C
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$817,500$817,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
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$3,650,000$3,650,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167
LD
RFA - 4
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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As much as I like laine I'm not even sure flyers deal konecny straight up for him
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Oct. 2, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Theozler
As much as I like laine I'm not even sure flyers deal konecny straight up for him


LOL ... this is going to be roughly the ask. If Laine goes, its for a package like this.
Oct. 2, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
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This is a heck of a lot closer than anything we've seen from the Canadiens posts
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Oct. 2, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
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LOL ... this is going to be roughly the ask. If Laine goes, its for a package like this.


I think they'd be more willing to insert frost or Patrick in that spot. I get the feeling they view konecny as their heir to Giroux
Oct. 2, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
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I think they'd be more willing to insert frost or Patrick in that spot. I get the feeling they view konecny as their heir to Giroux


Maybe Winnipeg takes Patrick... But I don't see that being adequate for them. The biggest thing they're after, aside from a round Defenseman, is a forward with cost certainty. You don't get that with Frost or Patrick.
Oct. 2, 2020 at 3:14 p.m.
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Maybe Winnipeg takes Patrick... But I don't see that being adequate for them. The biggest thing they're after, aside from a round Defenseman, is a forward with cost certainty. You don't get that with Frost or Patrick.


I think Patrick would get it done if not for the head issues
Oct. 2, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.
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I think Patrick would get it done if not for the head issues


Patrick is barely a top 6 forward. Of course the Flyers would be willing....the Jets would laugh
Oct. 2, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.
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LOL ... this is going to be roughly the ask. If Laine goes, its for a package like this.


I don't think it would be. That's a significant overpay by Philly, especially when you factor in cost control. Swap Konecny with Frost and that's much closer
Oct. 2, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.
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I know the jets don't need to move Laine and if that's the ask the Flyers wouldn't make the move for him. The rumored ask is a top 4 d or top 6 center and 2 1st or a top 2 d and 1 first. In this you do get a top 4 d and possibly even a top two in a year or two and a top line forward who is also just finding their way in the league. If the season played out in full Konecny was projected to put up 30 goals. It also doesn't make sense for the jets to trade him for a winger as the main piece
Oct. 2, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Theozler
As much as I like laine I'm not even sure flyers deal konecny straight up for him


I agree. Konecny is very very good - He scored just below a point per game while playing under 17 mins per game, as his TOI is increased up to regular 1st line mins he will most likely be over a point per game player being paid only 5.5M until 2025 - Thats one of the best contracts in the league
Oct. 3, 2020 at 1:48 p.m.
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I don't think it would be. That's a significant overpay by Philly, especially when you factor in cost control. Swap Konecny with Frost and that's much closer


No deal from WPG.

1) They are not looking to take another step back...
2) There needs to be salary going towards WPG, for this to make sense... Hence Konecny.
Oct. 3, 2020 at 1:49 p.m.
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I agree. Konecny is very very good - He scored just below a point per game while playing under 17 mins per game, as his TOI is increased up to regular 1st line mins he will most likely be over a point per game player being paid only 5.5M until 2025 - Thats one of the best contracts in the league


Yeah, Konecny is a good player... You don't get an elite talent without giving up good players.
Oct. 3, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
I know the jets don't need to move Laine and if that's the ask the Flyers wouldn't make the move for him. The rumored ask is a top 4 d or top 6 center and 2 1st or a top 2 d and 1 first. In this you do get a top 4 d and possibly even a top two in a year or two and a top line forward who is also just finding their way in the league. If the season played out in full Konecny was projected to put up 30 goals. It also doesn't make sense for the jets to trade him for a winger as the main piece


Then a deal probably doesn't get done.

No team is giving away an elite talent without getting a quality player in return. Like you said, the Jets still have the option of keeping Laine, and actually playing him where he should be played. If you want him, it's going to cost. This is not a team trading a player looking to rebuild... If they're trading him, its to try to improve the team by changing its identity. Hence Konecny being the starting point.
Oct. 3, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
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Yeah, Konecny is a good player... You don't get an elite talent without giving up good players.


I dont think you would get Konecny++ for Laine though. 1 for 1 is pretty close imo, especially when you consider their current contract situations
Oct. 3, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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Then a deal probably doesn't get done.

No team is giving away an elite talent without getting a quality player in return. Like you said, the Jets still have the option of keeping Laine, and actually playing him where he should be played. If you want him, it's going to cost. This is not a team trading a player looking to rebuild... If they're trading him, its to try to improve the team by changing its identity. Hence Konecny being the starting point.


I think a staring point would look more like Sanheim+Frost+2020 1st +2021 2nd. The jets get their future 2C behind Scheifele a definite Top 4 probably top 2 dman another first and a 2nd
 
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