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Finishing it off

Created by: dgfresh78
Initial Creation Date: Oct 4, 2020
Published: Oct 4, 2020 at 10:39
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Erne, Adam1$850,000
Kunin, Luke3$2,750,000
Pilut, Lawrence2$800,000
Lafferty, Sam2$700,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Erne, Adam [RFA Rights]
DET
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Kunin, Luke [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
PIT
  1. Pilut, Lawrence [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 4th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Simon, Dominik [RFA Rights]
  2. Erne, Adam
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
MIN
BUF
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,759,342$0$850,000$1,740,658
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Kunin, Luke
$2,750,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
PIT
Poulin, Samuel
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 3
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Sceviour, Colton
$1,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
Pilut, Lawrence
$800,000
LD
RFA
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 2

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Oct 4, 2020 at 10:41
#1
SabresFan1996
Joined: Aug 2017
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Sabres decline why give up a draft pick if they get Simon on Friday for free with the pens not qualifying him
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Oct 4, 2020 at 10:42
#2
y i k e s
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Just a question; in my recent post i suggested since this is a pens post and you and other pens will see this

JJ
POJ
Simon
-> SJS
For

Gambrell
3rd 2021

Is that fair for both teams or unfair for pit/sjs
Oct 4, 2020 at 10:42
#3
Joined: Jul 2020
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I like that for Detroit, if you're not signing Erne you might as well take Perlini. Erne might come back as a 4th line defensive guy, I would like that.
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Oct 4, 2020 at 10:49
#4
Go Wings Go
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I see Yzerman qualifying Erne but not Perlini so he'd move Perlini in the deal not Erne. But it's a reasonable offer really don't want JJ now but it's not terrible.
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Oct 4, 2020 at 10:56
#5
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I’d accept as Detroit
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Oct 4, 2020 at 11:03
#6
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Quoting: yikes
Just a question; in my recent post i suggested since this is a pens post and you and other pens will see this

JJ
POJ
Simon
-> SJS
For

Gambrell
3rd 2021

Is that fair for both teams or unfair for pit/sjs


take simon out and it probably works out. You can pull out gambrel if need be.
Simon probably won't play much next year anyway, he's rehabbing a shoulder injury 6 months. So I'm not sure why anyone trades for him right now.
You take that, and the fact that he'll be a UFA next year, I don't see why he signs anything longer than 1 year or why any team signs him for more than that. It's a bad gamble either way.
You miss him probably the whole year, if not close. And shortly after he becomes a UFA to test a market for a bigger role somewhere etc....
I see the penguins offering him 1 year 2 years tops if they think they owe him a second chance after injury.
SJS owes him no such favors.
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Oct 4, 2020 at 11:03
#7
Hockey Super Genius
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,042
Likes: 773
I like the Kunin at 3C a lot ... He struggled at Center last yr but IMO he will eventually be a very good 3C... Very smart young underrated player
Oct 4, 2020 at 11:56
#8
Thread Starter
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 2,081
Likes: 490
Quoting: yikes
Just a question; in my recent post i suggested since this is a pens post and you and other pens will see this

JJ
POJ
Simon
-> SJS
For

Gambrell
3rd 2021

Is that fair for both teams or unfair for pit/sjs


I think it’s pretty good for both sides. I like gambrell as a potential bottom 6 center option and the only thing I’d change is Simon because he’s most likely getting non tendered and SJS could sign him without giving up any assets.
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Oct 4, 2020 at 12:04
#9
y i k e s
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 4,249
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Quoting: dgfresh78
I think it’s pretty good for both sides. I like gambrell as a potential bottom 6 center option and the only thing I’d change is Simon because he’s most likely getting non tendered and SJS could sign him without giving up any assets.


Quoting: pharrow
take simon out and it probably works out. You can pull out gambrel if need be.
Simon probably won't play much next year anyway, he's rehabbing a shoulder injury 6 months. So I'm not sure why anyone trades for him right now.
You take that, and the fact that he'll be a UFA next year, I don't see why he signs anything longer than 1 year or why any team signs him for more than that. It's a bad gamble either way.
You miss him probably the whole year, if not close. And shortly after he becomes a UFA to test a market for a bigger role somewhere etc....
I see the penguins offering him 1 year 2 years tops if they think they owe him a second chance after injury.
SJS owes him no such favors.


Thanks guys
Oct 4, 2020 at 12:19
#10
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Quoting: dgfresh78
I think it’s pretty good for both sides. I like gambrell as a potential bottom 6 center option and the only thing I’d change is Simon because he’s most likely getting non tendered and SJS could sign him without giving up any assets.


you really think the penguins are the kind of organization to not tender a guy who is on IR after shoulder surgery.
Come on man.
They do have class.
He'll get a league minimum deal. 1 year probably. 2 way is my guess.
They aren't just going to leave him hanging.
Oct 4, 2020 at 12:34
#11
Buffbry
Joined: Aug 2017
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Wings accept, this is the perfect trade for both teams
Oct 4, 2020 at 2:43
#12
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
I see Yzerman qualifying Erne but not Perlini so he'd move Perlini in the deal not Erne. But it's a reasonable offer really don't want JJ now but it's not terrible.


It's not a deal that would be massively detrimental to buy out. We have the space to do it for the duration.
Oct 4, 2020 at 2:48
#13
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: Seider53
It's not a deal that would be massively detrimental to buy out. We have the space to do it for the duration.


6 years of dead money on the books, I'd definitely want their 1st round pick attached to do it.
Oct 4, 2020 at 2:52
#14
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
6 years of dead money on the books, I'd definitely want their 1st round pick attached to do it.


Oh yeah, I would want the 1st.
I wouldnt riot if we didnt get it, depending on our defence he could play on the bottom pair and then be bought out next summer, freeing up a year. His buyout is never over $2million and not in any years that would really hurt us though.
Oct 4, 2020 at 2:57
#15
Go Wings Go
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Posts: 28,999
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Quoting: Seider53
Oh yeah, I would want the 1st.
I wouldnt riot if we didnt get it, depending on our defence he could play on the bottom pair and then be bought out next summer, freeing up a year. His buyout is never over $2million and not in any years that would really hurt us though.


Totally agree Yzerman could keep him one for a season see how he does, And then look at a potential buyout next summer no big deal.
Oct 4, 2020 at 8:17
#16
Thread Starter
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Quoting: pharrow
you really think the penguins are the kind of organization to not tender a guy who is on IR after shoulder surgery.
Come on man.
They do have class.
He'll get a league minimum deal. 1 year probably. 2 way is my guess.
They aren't just going to leave him hanging.


It certainly seems like they’re going to leave him hanging. https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2020/10/03/dominik-simon-penguins-contract-restricted-free-agents/stories/202010030102
Oct 4, 2020 at 9:30
#17
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not giving a QO and not giving him a contract are two different things.
I highly doubt he doesn't resign. They just don't want arbitration. I'm sure he could sign with another team, but who's going to pick up a guy coming off a shoulder surgery and might not play for awhile?
 
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