Why does CAR deal Jake Bean for a 2nd? That’d be incredibly dumb of them to cut bait for such a return before at least seeing what they have in him.

You're not getting a 1st round pick for Tuuka Rask in a flooded UFA Goalie market. Any why would Colorado want him when they've both Grubauer and Francouz?

If you think we aren't getting (at least) a late 1st for a top5 G in the league, I don't know what to say.


" in a flooded UFA Goalie market "

*in a flooded UFA mediocre goalies market*

Yeah not getting a 1st for Rask. Maybe a 5th or 6th for his full contract, but if they retain half the salary, they may get a 3rd or a late 2nd.

will Rask even play next year?
I don't see anyone even remotely interested in that contract. No one wants to end up where boston was this year. I do think they will to move him but not for a 1st.

Murray and Kuemper wont get 1st round picks, And neither will a guy that walked out on his team.

A competent GM shouldn't give a 1st for Murray. Kuemper? You can, he's been a top5 in the past two seasons and he has 2 years left at $4.5M.

" And neither will a guy that walked out on his team. "
Judging someone who prioritize family over hockey? Lol I will just stop answering to you clown

enjoy watching Abdelkader and Staal play hockey next year

his daughter was sick you dumb miserable babbling idiot

on another note the arz trade is nowhere close

Abdelkader is done in DET he'll be buried in GR and Staal will be on the bottom pairing so it's no big deal, Enjoy your declining team with no Krug Chara and Rask kiss your cup chance's goodbye.

And yet Sweeney is dealing him because he quit on the team, So who's the babbling idiot.

I don't think your getting a 1st for rask but im against 1st for goalies anyway. Im not sure why colorado either tho. I guess they could absorb the 1 year and may solidify thier goaltending for a cup run. Im not sure why people think jake bean is even a trade option they're not over loaded on d and they have a full suite of picks so where are you even coming from with that deal? Are we assuming he has a standing request to be traded to bean town?

show me where sweeney is dealing him, youre so dumb, his daughter was in the hospital you waste of life

1st ballot hall of famer that was just a vezina finalists on a somewhat team friendly contract.

Your comment is outrageously misguided.

No i agree with him, I doubt Rask returns a 1st, i know hes really good but with only 1 year left and how expensive his contract is I just dont see a lot of suitors. Kuemper should return a 1st + due to being cheap and having 2 years of control. If Andersen isnt going to return a 1st at a 1M salary i dont see rask doing it at 6.5M.

As for the UFA market, it includes 4th in Vezina Markstrom, former cup winner Holtby (who could definitely bounce back), recent fantastic cup run Khudobin, and the excellent 1B Greiss.

murray and kuemper arent nearly as good as rask has been. Rask has been arguably the most consistent and the best goalie over the last 10 years. stats back that up. helps playing behind a great defense too dont get me wrong but rask has never had a season below .912 save percentage and 2.67GAA. Colorado is the stanley cup favorite if he is there and they make no other moves.

Am i really in the minority that the second runner up to the Vezina will get a first round pick back? Lehner at the deadline last year got a 2nd and a prospect... I mean do people forget that he was easily the conn smythe winner if the B's win in 2019. And i know im gonna hear "4 goals in Game 7", one was a high tip/good bounce, one was marchand taking a bad change, one was a point black one timer, the other was a backdoor feed. He didnt get a ton of help. Imagine thinking hes gonna get a 5TH? COL was a goalie away from being legit cup favorites, you dont think theyd sacrifice a late first for a vezina caliber goalie? I get the flat cap, salary, all of it, his cap hit at 7mil is not unmovable... COL has 22 mil in cap space, yes they have some guys to sign, but they can make it work even if the B's had to retain a mil or so

A. Lehner’s prospect was Subban, an underperforming prospect.
B. Lehner was highly retained between Chicago and Toronto.

Rask is 7 million, his value is less in a flat cap realm. Consider he is 33 going on 34 and it adds to risk.

Markstrom: 2.75 GAA and .918 Save Percentage this year. his career averages are .911 and 2.80. BUT essentially has 3 years of being the starting goaltender. Holtby has been awful for 3 years, whoever gets him is going to be stuck with a very bad contract holtbys last 3 years from most recent to 3 years ago: .897 3.11, .911 2.82, .907 2.99. Khudobin has been fantastic in dallas. I mean absolutely fantastic in Dallas. But hes 34 turning 35 in may and hes never been anyones starter hes always been a backup. So unless hes being paired with another 1b goalie like greiss i dont see his value being there. Greiss is in a similar boat... turns 35 in jan has a career .915 2.63 line. but his numbers for NYI have been all over the place... again 3 year sample: .913 2.74, .927 2.28 .892 3.82. if you average these out: .911 2.95. Are you really paying major capital for that. best suited as a 1b but you still have to have a 1a.

Now for colorado, if grubby can stay healthy. him and khudobin could be a really scary pairing. francouz played well during the regular season and i believe hes already signed for this year so do you mess with that? probably not.

For comparison purposes rask last 3: .929 2.12, .912 2.48, .917 2.36. career: .922 2.26. Turns 34 in march.

Again, i said rask is good but he wont return a 1st. Its as simple as that

for a team thats a starter away from a cup i wouldnt rule it out. its also not like bruins HAVE to trade him for any reason. If value isnt there in a return he doesnt get moved.

Unlike ARZ and OEL who i think are taking the best package between boston or vancouver...

It's not a bigger risk than trading a 1st+ for a forward at the TDL. If you plan on going all in, send the 1st.

Not exactly. At the deadline you have a general idea where your pick is, right now you don’t. Also, at the deadline you have a general indication of the player’s performance level. You don’t have an idea how an older goalie will perform at this stage. Risk is a lot higher pre-season.

More than likely Arizona would want Vladar or Swayman if Kuemper is coming over.

Slava Demin was the prospect I was referring to, also retained as a deadline deal to a team that had already added Martinez.

Point is, Rask has been a consistent top tier goalie for the last decade, you cant say that about any other goalie in FA or in the trade market. Hes won a cup as a backup, and absolutely carried the Bruins to two appearances. I dont think its crazy to assume a team like the Avs who have a ton of prospects and cap space for another year or two before they have to resign Makar, Landy, Mac. Would trade a 1st to go all in this year with a top 5 goalie.