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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 5, 2020
Published: Oct. 5, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,000,000
4$5,500,000
1$2,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. True, Alex
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (COL)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
SJS
  1. Bracco, Jeremy [RFA Rights]
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Kerfoot, Alexander
  4. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
  5. 2020 6th round pick (CAR)
2.
TOR
  1. Pesce, Brett
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
One of the biggest overpayments ever but apparently Pesce is a god according to Canes fans. Realistically a 1st+Andersen is likely enough to get him but I added the rest just cuz Canes fans won't like it if it's a fair value trade.
CAR
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Holl, Justin
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (COL)
  4. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Zacha, Pavel ($500,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,459,783$0$20,000$40,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 4
$5,500,000$5,500,000
G
UFA - 6
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
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Sharks cannot afford those two players, let alone losing true who’s likely gonna be a roster player for us who played well in his debut games
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
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We cannot afford those two players, let alone losing true who’s likely gonna be a roster player for us who played well in his debut games


The Sharks have 14 million in cap space, they are trying to move Jones, and the only sort of big name RFA/UFA they have to sign is Labanc. They can easily afford Kerfoot and Johnsson. True is a depth peice. I really don't think he has a higher ceiling then a 4th line player. You already have enough of those and you can afford to move him. Kerfoot and Johnsson are both better then True will ever be anyway.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.
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Cool keep your overpayment.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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Cool keep your overpayment.


Lol unless Canes fans see Nylander they say no. Wake up. Nylander has much more value then Pesce. That trade would be Hall for Larsson 2.0.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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The Sharks have 14 million in cap space, they are trying to move Jones, and the only sort of big name RFA/UFA they have to sign is Labanc. They can easily afford Kerfoot and Johnsson. True is a depth peice. I really don't think he has a higher ceiling then a 4th line player. You already have enough of those and you can afford to move him. Kerfoot and Johnsson are both better then True will ever be anyway.

Firstly we aren’t gonna move Jones as it’s likely we run Dubnyk and Jones (unfortunately). We can only move Jones if we take a bad contract back.
We are just acquiring Donato (2 mil)
Labanc is gonna cost 3-4 mil

That brings us under 10 mil needing more than 3 depth forwards, and a defensive 3rd pair guy and still waiting for a goalie (likely dubnyk, who will be 2-4 mil)

1 mil for Noesen
1 mil for jumbo if he resigns
I see us signing Karlsson for 1 mil.

So no, we cannot afford those guys unless we move money out
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Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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If Carolina had a one year window they might do that, but they don’t so they won’t. Andersen as a one year rental is not worth much of anything to Carolina
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.
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Sharks will take Kerfoot for a 3rd.
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Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
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Firstly we aren’t gonna move Jones as it’s likely we run Dubnyk and Jones (unfortunately). We can only move Jones if we take a bad contract back.
We are just acquiring Donato (2 mil)
Labanc is gonna cost 3-4 mil

That brings us under 10 mil needing more than 3 depth forwards, and a defensive 3rd pair guy and still waiting for a goalie (likely dubnyk)

So no, we cannot afford those guys unless we move money out


Labanc didn't have a great year (compared to his previous one at least), so I don't see him over 3. Donato will cost 1 at most. You can have a bottom pairing guy at league minimum or at least less then 1 million. Dubnyk's contract is actually less then Jones, so even if you do include Donato it's the same amount in as out. I think your overestimating these contracts a bit, especially in a flat cap year. I mean I don't blame you because that tends to happen a lot on here, but the Sharks can 100% afford to make these trades.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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If Carolina had a one year window they might do that, but they don’t so they won’t. Andersen as a one year rental is not worth much of anything to Carolina


Oh so the 1st, 2nd, and decent defenceman are useless then?
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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Labanc didn't have a great year (compared to his previous one at least), so I don't see him over 3. Donato will cost 1 at most. You can have a bottom pairing guy at league minimum or at least less then 1 million. Dubnyk's contract is actually less then Jones, so even if you do include Donato it's the same amount in as out. I think your overestimating these contracts a bit, especially in a flat cap year. I mean I don't blame you because that tends to happen a lot on here, but the Sharks can 100% afford to make these trades.


Isn't the rumour Jones for Dubnyk (a trade). And there is also a very low chance that actually happens it could literally just be a rumour. I don't think Sharks management would do that to their team
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:29 p.m.
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Labanc didn't have a great year (compared to his previous one at least), so I don't see him over 3. Donato will cost 1 at most. You can have a bottom pairing guy at league minimum or at least less then 1 million. Dubnyk's contract is actually less then Jones, so even if you do include Donato it's the same amount in as out. I think your overestimating these contracts a bit, especially in a flat cap year. I mean I don't blame you because that tends to happen a lot on here, but the Sharks can 100% afford to make these trades.


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Isn't the rumour Jones for Dubnyk (a trade). And there is also a very low chance that actually happens it could literally just be a rumour. I don't think Sharks management would do that to their team


Russo confirmed jones isn’t interesting to Minny unless that changed in the last 10 hours.

Donato is signed for 1.9

Labancs contract projections are above 3, likely 3.5x4-5years
He wasn’t bad his team was bad (there a article on him and his projection).

Dubnyk is signed at 4.3 mil and will be retained probably we just don’t know how much.

We can’t afford 6 mil in 2 forwards plus Labancs 3 plus Donato 1.9 plus still needed depth and plus d and plus a goalie.

We need to move money first.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:31 p.m.
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Lol unless Canes fans see Nylander they say no. Wake up. Nylander has much more value then Pesce. That trade would be Hall for Larsson 2.0.


Wake up. Unless the Canes see something that makes their roster better long term, they aren’t accepting a trade. Y’all refuse to accept this point and think you can throw futures and cast aways at us to accept. Pesce doesn’t have to move, unless the roster gets better he is staying.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.
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I know this is hard for some Leafs fans, but here are some things you have to understand before you propose trades with Carolina:

1. The Carolina Hurricanes are in a window of about 4-5 years to compete for a Stanley Cup. They have a core of young talent on mostly affordable contracts, including Aho, Teravainen, Slavin, Pesce, Svech, and Necas.
2. They also have a lot of promising young players in their system, including Bean, Suzuki, Bokk, Rees, etc.
3. They aren't trading those core NHL players for draft picks, prospects, or downgrades. See #1 and #2.
4. Goaltending was never really the problem with Hurricanes last 2 seasons. They aren't desperate to make a change. Anderson for 1 year isn't really that valuable given Canes can stick with current tandem.
5. Canes blueline is deep, but has issues. They gave up some of highest rates of high danger chances in NHL. Pesce and Slavin are two best defenders.
6. Canes have cap limitations, especially with big new contracts on the horizon for Svech and Hamilton after this season. That adds to how the Canes value players like Pesce, who is on an incredible contract.

If you consider that Leafs have a forward strength and want a better blue line, while Canes have blue line strength but want better top 6 scoring... that's where the trade talk should happen.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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Oh so the 1st, 2nd, and decent defenceman are useless then?


Exactly, Holl wouldn’t make the top 6 in Carolina
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.
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The Sharks have 14 million in cap space, they are trying to move Jones, and the only sort of big name RFA/UFA they have to sign is Labanc. They can easily afford Kerfoot and Johnsson. True is a depth peice. I really don't think he has a higher ceiling then a 4th line player. You already have enough of those and you can afford to move him. Kerfoot and Johnsson are both better then True will ever be anyway.


12 mil in cap space that is about to become 8 mil.
They are not trying to move Jones
They cannot afford Kerfoot, Johnsson, and Labanc. One of them is already with the team.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.
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Wake up. Unless the Canes see something that makes their roster better long term, they aren’t accepting a trade. Y’all refuse to accept this point and think you can throw futures and cast aways at us to accept. Pesce doesn’t have to move, unless the roster gets better he is staying.


No. You can flip the first to fix your top 6. Thats what you don't understand.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
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Exactly, Holl wouldn’t make the top 6 in Carolina


Uh yes he would? without Pesce the only person behind Hamilton who plays RHD is Fleury, and he isn't even a right shot.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
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No. You can flip the first to fix your top 6. Thats what you don't understand.


Cool but we aren’t flipping our first. We keep pesce and get better with him not by selling him off.
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Oct. 5, 2020 at 1:22 p.m.
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Uh yes he would? without Pesce the only person behind Hamilton who plays RHD is Fleury, and he isn't even a right shot.


Ok so he’s a 6D then. What would be the point in Carolina doing this trade? They get significantly worse on the right side of D and get a minor upgrade in goal based off last years stats. The picks don’t make up for the negative effects this has on Carolina
 
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