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Created by: Leafs09
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 5, 2020
Published: Oct. 5, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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1$1,700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,000,000
1$1,200,000
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  1. Watson, Austin
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (NSH)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,209,783$0$400,000$290,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
$1,200,000$1,200,000
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UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
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$700,000$700,000
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
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UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
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UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
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$700,000$700,000
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UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
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Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
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nothing says mean like a domestic abuser
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Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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nothing says mean like a domestic abuser


didnt the chick take the blame in the end or something like that?
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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watson is terrible, this is very bad for the leafs
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
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watson is terrible, this is very bad for the leafs


It's clearing Cap room too., and Watson is not very bad either. Nice 4th line player that will play a role.
Johnsson is very replacable especially at 3 mill
Leafs have some D prospects coming up so Dermott is expendable.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs09
It's clearing Cap room too., and Watson is not very bad either. Nice 4th line player that will play a role.
Johnsson is very replacable especially at 3 mill
Leafs have some D prospects coming up so Dermott is expendable.


Watson is in fact very bad. He cant score, he gets absolutly caved in defensivly, like a literal rock would probably do betterand he takes way too many penalties. If you want to clear cap space that bad, you'd be better off trading for a 7th rounder 2 years from now
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Watson is in fact very bad. He cant score, he gets absolutly caved in defensivly, like a literal rock would probably do betterand he takes way too many penalties. If you want to clear cap space that bad, you'd be better off trading for a 7th rounder 2 years from now


hahaha wow, did he do somethign to you? He's a NHL player, so no a rock would not do better.
He's someone who could actually stick up for the guys who hack Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Reilly. Something they do not have. No one fears hittting those guys.
You have no fact other than hate on this guy.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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didnt the chick take the blame in the end or something like that?


He still smacked her
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.
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hahaha wow, did he do somethign to you? He's a NHL player, so no a rock would not do better.
He's someone who could actually stick up for the guys who hack Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Reilly. Something they do not have. No one fears hittting those guys.
You have no fact other than hate on this guy.


except that he is that bad like he might be the worst defensive player in the NHL bad, so yeah, id rather have a rock because at least it would have a lower cap hit.
And please with that "sticking up for Matthews" crap, he wont be on the same line, he wont play against anyone who goes against them and no one fears Watson because hockey players are not afraid of useless plugs that they can skate away from laughing.
Him being a terrible hockey player and me confirming it isnt hating on him, it's pointing out that he's a terrible hockey player and shouldnt be in the NHL, let alone targeted on purpose by teams .
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
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He still smacked her


yeah i know
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.
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except that he is that bad like he might be the worst defensive player in the NHL bad, so yeah, id rather have a rock because at least it would have a lower cap hit.
And please with that "sticking up for Matthews" crap, he wont be on the same line, he wont play against anyone who goes against them and no one fears Watson because hockey players are not afraid of useless plugs that they can skate away from laughing.
Him being a terrible hockey player and me confirming it isnt hating on him, it's pointing out that he's a terrible hockey player and shouldnt be in the NHL, let alone targeted on purpose by teams .


You a Nashville fan, watch alot of there games? Nashville had a easy out on him when stuff happened with him and they took him back right away. ou honestly don't know much. No he won't be on Matthews line, but Reaves is not on a top line, Maroon was not a top line player, Rinaldo, etc. It's about presence.
Oct. 5, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.
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You a Nashville fan, watch alot of there games? Nashville had a easy out on him when stuff happened with him and they took him back right away. ou honestly don't know much. No he won't be on Matthews line, but Reaves is not on a top line, Maroon was not a top line player, Rinaldo, etc. It's about presence.


you're almost there. Yes, i watch lots of Nashville, because they have good players like Ellis that are fun to watch and the only time Watson was ever in frame was when he was getting plowed in by the other team or taking a dumb penalty.
The difference with guys like Reaves and Maroon is that they are decent hockey players who can take a regular shift.
Presence? my god, no one is worried about these guys, especially plugs like Watson or Rinaldo, no one is thinking about their "presence" except in how easy it would be to skate around them and get a scoring chance. You gotta get off the don cherry drugs.
Oct. 6, 2020 at 8:04 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
you're almost there. Yes, i watch lots of Nashville, because they have good players like Ellis that are fun to watch and the only time Watson was ever in frame was when he was getting plowed in by the other team or taking a dumb penalty.
The difference with guys like Reaves and Maroon is that they are decent hockey players who can take a regular shift.
Presence? my god, no one is worried about these guys, especially plugs like Watson or Rinaldo, no one is thinking about their "presence" except in how easy it would be to skate around them and get a scoring chance. You gotta get off the don cherry drugs.


Yes they do think about it when you have to awnser the bell after a slash or a hit to one of you superstar players.
Reaves is not a good player either. Watson has more points then him.
Ellis is overpaid, and will be a bad contract soon.
Oct. 6, 2020 at 9:13 a.m.
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Yes they do think about it when you have to awnser the bell after a slash or a hit to one of you superstar players.
Reaves is not a good player either. Watson has more points then him.
Ellis is overpaid, and will be a bad contract soon.


except they never have to answer the bell if they dont want to. Why do you think guys like Marchand just skate away after being dirty all the time. And Reaves is actually decent defensivly.
Ellis is one of the best defenders in the league.
Oct. 6, 2020 at 11:36 a.m.
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except they never have to answer the bell if they dont want to. Why do you think guys like Marchand just skate away after being dirty all the time. And Reaves is actually decent defensivly.
Ellis is one of the best defenders in the league.


Marchand has Chara, Ritchie now and Thorton back in the day. That's why he gets to skate away.
Reaves struggles. If he was not tough he would not have a role on a NHL team.
Ellis is good, but not one of the Best defenders in the league. I oculd name 20 guys easily better, if not more.
Oct. 6, 2020 at 11:42 a.m.
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Marchand has Chara, Ritchie now and Thorton back in the day. That's why he gets to skate away.
Reaves struggles. If he was not tough he would not have a role on a NHL team.
Ellis is good, but not one of the Best defenders in the league. I oculd name 20 guys easily better, if not more.


no, he just skates away because he can. No one has to protect him because he doesnt want to fight. It's amazing how this crap keeps persisting when Matt Cooke nearly ended Bergeron's career when Lucic was literally 20 feet away, and then Cooke didnt fight Lucic ever and Cooke was as dirty as always every single time he faced the Bruins forever.
Reaves is a fine 4th liner and if he wasnt a fighter he'd still be 10x the hockey player that Watson has ever been.
Ellis is 100% one of the best defenders in the league and if you can name 20 better ones, at least 10 of those are wrong.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
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no, he just skates away because he can. No one has to protect him because he doesnt want to fight. It's amazing how this crap keeps persisting when Matt Cooke nearly ended Bergeron's career when Lucic was literally 20 feet away, and then Cooke didnt fight Lucic ever and Cooke was as dirty as always every single time he faced the Bruins forever.
Reaves is a fine 4th liner and if he wasnt a fighter he'd still be 10x the hockey player that Watson has ever been.
Ellis is 100% one of the best defenders in the league and if you can name 20 better ones, at least 10 of those are wrong.


Josi, Chabot, Theodore, Hedman, Heiskanen, Kilnberg, Carlson,Petro, Makar, Jones, Ekblad, Hamilton, Giordano, Ekman Larsson,
Then you still have guys that are close: Rielly, Hughes, Paryako etc
Oct. 7, 2020 at 8:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs09
Josi, Chabot, Theodore, Hedman, Heiskanen, Kilnberg, Carlson,Petro, Makar, Jones, Ekblad, Hamilton, Giordano, Ekman Larsson,
Then you still have guys that are close: Rielly, Hughes, Paryako etc


yeah, he's better than Chabot, Theodore, Giordano, OEL, Rielly, Klingberg, Parayko and Rielly. Makar, Hughes and Heiskanen are potentially better but are gonna need more than one year to solidify that
Oct. 8, 2020 at 10:53 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, he's better than Chabot, Theodore, Giordano, OEL, Rielly, Klingberg, Parayko and Rielly. Makar, Hughes and Heiskanen are potentially better but are gonna need more than one year to solidify that


oh wow, I dunno if you are watching many games then.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 12:39 p.m.
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oh wow, I dunno if you are watching many games then.


yeah, that must be it, because that's all anyone here who gets disagreed with comes back with. Bud, how many games i have watched or not has no baring on how wrong you are, because i bet dollars to donuts i have watched more of those players play more games than you have.
 
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