SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

What is actually plausible

Created by: capshockeyismeh
Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 7, 2020
Published: Oct. 7, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I don't think is time to blow everything up, but there still needs to be a few minor trades. Panik and Hags are big cap hits that the Caps can't afford if there are no production changes. I think a Shat signing could be possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if he signs elsewhere for 4+ years above 4 mil. At that price, caps should not go in on him. I don't think Hobbs is ready for a 6-D roll, I'd like him at 7 though. Not sure the AZ trade would work, might need it to be a 3rd round + Hags due to the cap changes and the upside Crouse has.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$875,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$950,000
1$850,000
2$1,100,000
2$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,250,000
2$3,850,000
Trades
1.
WSH
  1. 2021 5th round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Pánik, Richard
Additional Details:
Panik needs to be on his way out, no way the Caps can afford to keep him. Best bet is to trade him for a pick of some value or just waive him.
2.
WSH
  1. Crouse, Lawson
Additional Details:
Former first round pick has a lot of upside, and Arizona seemingly wants to change some things around. Yes they want to cut money, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some other odd moves this off season. The tank is real.
ARI
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. 2021 4th round pick (WSH)
  3. 2021 5th round pick (NSH)
Additional Details:
Hags has not been productive like he's supposed to be. He's good on the PK, but too many missed chances don't make him viable on the ice all the time. His 2.75 cap hit for another 3 years simply isn't good.
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
2022
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
2023
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WSH
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$69,598,211$419,749$600,000$11,901,789
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$9,200,000$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$5,166,667$5,166,667
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,350,000$3,350,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$1,533,333$1,533,333
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$2,415,000$2,415,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$950,000$950,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$850,000$850,000
D
UFA

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
#1
Who adds what?
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,703
Edited Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
Lol. What?

Shattenkirk on the left side? I don't know. But yes, WSH could trade some picks and Hagelin to get Crouse. More likely some picks and Panik, who had a slow start last year and didn't become a fan favorite as hoped, in WSH. And Shattenkirk for 2 years around 3M to 3.5M is pretty good. Could even imagine trading Travis Boyd for Shattenkirk's UFA rights, since Tampa needs cheap depth guys.
All_Knowing liked this.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
#2
Rangers 2024
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2017
Posts: 19,073
Likes: 5,438
kuzy gone for a 2RD soon
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
#3
Thread Starter
Wilson has a Cup
Avatar of the user
Joined: Oct. 2017
Posts: 13
Likes: 4
Quoting: Eli
Lol. What?

No.


Says the one who is trying to trade back for Schmidt
All_Knowing liked this.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:33 a.m.
#4
Who adds what?
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,703
Edited Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:41 a.m.
Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
kuzy gone for a 2RD soon


Only offer on here is Dumba and Kunin. What have you got? (edit: oh, right.. Some Rangers chatter a couple weeks ago. Seems like they all got bored and forgot, though, when they didn't get him for just Deangelo and Strome and an arbitration headache or two).

Quoting: capshockeyismeh
Says the one who is trying to trade back for Schmidt


Trying not to, really. It just makes too much sense for Vegas, but I think the Caps are better off giving a 3rd for McNabb and keeping Eller.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:36 a.m.
#5
Rangers 2024
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2017
Posts: 19,073
Likes: 5,438
Quoting: Eli
Only offer on here is Dumba and Kunin. What have you got?


Deangelo gauthier and a 3rd take it or leave it
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:39 a.m.
#6
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 1,113
Yeah...I mean this is plausible, but won't happen. Besides the fact that your D lineup is off (people on the wrong side etc), I get your point.

I just don't see the Caps trading BOTH Hags and Panik (even though I believe they are too expensive for the production they have shown, as you stated). I also do not see Shattenkirk signing with the Caps. That experiment was already tried, and failed terribly.

It is a nice effort, but don't think it will happen like this.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:40 a.m.
#7
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 1,113
Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Deangelo gauthier and a 3rd take it or leave it


hahaha...leave it.
Eli liked this.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.
#8
Rangers 2024
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2017
Posts: 19,073
Likes: 5,438
Quoting: AllCaps_BestTeam
hahaha...leave it.


Worth a try 🤷‍♂️
Eli liked this.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:44 a.m.
#9
Who adds what?
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,703
Quoting: AllCaps_BestTeam
Yeah...I mean this is plausible, but won't happen. Besides the fact that your D lineup is off (people on the wrong side etc), I get your point.

I just don't see the Caps trading BOTH Hags and Panik (even though I believe they are too expensive for the production they have shown, as you stated). I also do not see Shattenkirk signing with the Caps. That experiment was already tried, and failed terribly.

It is a nice effort, but don't think it will happen like this.


The trouble with Shattenkirk was that (a) he thought he wax waiving an NTC to be 1RD, but Carlson outplayed him and (b) behind Carlson, and Green, the Caps needed a shutdown right shot defenseman.

The reasons it can work now are (a) Shattenkirk stayed friends with Carlson and played #5D on Tampa this year, and (b) Nick Jensen.

I think Shattenkirk was good with the Lightning. I thought he was okay with New York, but their coaches like to put experienced defensemen in defensive roles and put new guys in position to score points, for the sake of generating trade value which is why:

Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Deangelo gauthier and a 3rd take it or leave it


is a nope.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:50 a.m.
#10
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 1,113
Quoting: Eli
The trouble with Shattenkirk was that (a) he thought he wax waiving an NTC to be 1RD, but Carlson outplayed him and (b) behind Carlson, and Green, the Caps needed a shutdown right shot defenseman.

The reasons it can work now are (a) Shattenkirk stayed friends with Carlson and played #5D on Tampa this year, and (b) Nick Jensen.

Maybe I misunderstand your point B, but Mike Green wasn't on the team when Shattenkirk was...
Shattenkirk can be friends with Carlson all he wants, but right now, Caps still need that shutdown RHD...and Shattenkirk is still not that defender...
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:51 a.m.
#11
Thread Starter
Wilson has a Cup
Avatar of the user
Joined: Oct. 2017
Posts: 13
Likes: 4
Quoting: AllCaps_BestTeam
Yeah...I mean this is plausible, but won't happen. Besides the fact that your D lineup is off (people on the wrong side etc), I get your point.

I just don't see the Caps trading BOTH Hags and Panik (even though I believe they are too expensive for the production they have shown, as you stated). I also do not see Shattenkirk signing with the Caps. That experiment was already tried, and failed terribly.

It is a nice effort, but don't think it will happen like this.


I 100% agree the shat experiment failed once, but also when he came in we expected him to be a top 2 D when he really wasn't. I do know I have him on his off side, but I know that there has been some experimentation with a few of the D playing on their off hand, that being said you're right we should probably look for a true LD.

Back to Hags and Panik... I'd rather see Panik out the door first. I think Hags *might* be able to do something productive, and he is good on the PK which is a good upside. One has to go though...
All_Knowing liked this.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
#12
Who adds what?
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,703
Quoting: AllCaps_BestTeam
Maybe I misunderstand your point B, but Mike Green wasn't on the team when Shattenkirk was...
Shattenkirk can be friends with Carlson all he wants, but right now, Caps still need that shutdown RHD...and Shattenkirk is still not that defender...


No. He's still more of a puck mover, but he's pretty good at that. http://www.puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20192020&positions=d&team=tbl&group_by=player_season_team
Oct. 7, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
#13
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 1,113
Quoting: capshockeyismeh
I 100% agree the shat experiment failed once, but also when he came in we expected him to be a top 2 D when he really wasn't. I do know I have him on his off side, but I know that there has been some experimentation with a few of the D playing on their off hand, that being said you're right we should probably look for a true LD.

Back to Hags and Panik... I'd rather see Panik out the door first. I think Hags *might* be able to do something productive, and he is good on the PK which is a good upside. One has to go though...


We have enough true LD IMO. I think we desperately need a true Top 4 RHD. See below:
Dillion-Carlson
Orlov-_______(?Maybe Jensen again since he played well down the stretch last season?)
Siegs/Fehervary-Jensen (if not inserted above)

If you have confidence Shat can fulfill that blank hole on the right side, great. I do not, as I believe the Caps need a shutdown RHD, either one on the second pair or the third pair, depending your trust with Jensen.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 12:01 p.m.
#14
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 1,113
Quoting: Eli
No. He's still more of a puck mover, but he's pretty good at that. http://www.puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20192020&positions=d&team=tbl&group_by=player_season_team


That's what Carlson is for. That's what Orlov is for -> puck moving. We need a shutdown RHD defender. Not a not as good Carlson 2.0
Oct. 7, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
#15
Who adds what?
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,703
Quoting: AllCaps_BestTeam
That's what Carlson is for. That's what Orlov is for -> puck moving. We need a shutdown RHD defender. Not a not as good Carlson 2.0


Nick Jensen, Brenden Dillon, Jonas Siegenthaler, and to some extent Michal Kempny play shutdown roles pretty well. If you want another shutdown guy, VGK fans offered Donovan McNabb (plus Stephenson back) for a 2nd. I think as much as they want cap space right now, that gets talked down to a 3rd, pretty easily. McNabb is basically Brenden Dillon, but younger, and cheaper. https://nhltradetalk.com/vegas-golden-knights-fleury-nate-schmidt/

I think WSH could use a right shot puck mover. And Shattenkirk might be that, and might be willing to go cheap to join another contender that will let him get some points. An Orlov-Shattenkirk 2nd pairing could get a ton of points, and a 3rd pair of any two of McNabb, Siegenthaler, Dillon, and Jensen could shut down opposing offenses as well as anybody does.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
#16
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 1,779
Likes: 1,113
Quoting: Eli
Nick Jensen, Brenden Dillon, Jonas Siegenthaler, and to some extent Michal Kempny play shutdown roles pretty well. If you want another shutdown guy, VGK fans offered Donovan McNabb (plus Stephenson back) for a 2nd. I think as much as they want cap space right now, that gets talked down to a 3rd, pretty easily. McNabb is basically Brenden Dillon, but younger, and cheaper. https://nhltradetalk.com/vegas-golden-knights-fleury-nate-schmidt/

I think WSH could use a right shot puck mover. And Shattenkirk might be that, and might be willing to go cheap to join another contender that will let him get some points. An Orlov-Shattenkirk 2nd pairing could get a ton of points, and a 3rd pair of any two of McNabb, Siegenthaler, Dillon, and Jensen could shut down opposing offenses as well as anybody does.


An Orlov-Shat 2nd pairing could get a ton of points, you are right. But they would give up a TON of high dangerous opportunities and goals. They would be exposed for being two offensively-minded defenders. But who knows, maybe you mix around the pairings to change that, and with a new coach, maybe it would work. I just don't see it, but would love be be proven wrong (especially with my favorite top 4 RHD candidate DeMelo off the boards).
Eli and Kalopsia liked this.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
#17
Who adds what?
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,703
Quoting: AllCaps_BestTeam
An Orlov-Shat 2nd pairing could get a ton of points, you are right. But they would give up a TON of high dangerous opportunities and goals. They would be exposed for being two offensively-minded defenders. But who knows, maybe you mix around the pairings to change that, and with a new coach, maybe it would work. I just don't see it, but would love be be proven wrong (especially with my favorite top 4 RHD candidate DeMelo off the boards).


Yeah. They might get lit up, but they might also light it up like Orlov and Shattenkirk* did. It's good to score goals sometimes. Sorry to hear about DeMelo.

When defending a lead, the pairings mould go to something like Dillon-Carlson, Orlov-Jensen, Siegenthaler-Shattenkirk. Or swap Dillon with Siegenthaler to make it more even.


*Niskanen. smile
All_Knowing liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll