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why are teams leaving guys unqualifed

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Like why not qualify and flip for assets or have someone offersheet or smth like i dont understand
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.
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Maybe want to avoid overpaying them in arbitration?
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.
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Because most aren’t worth qualifying offer. Guaranteed every gm attempted to move them but need a dancing partner
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:43 p.m.
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Maybe want to avoid overpaying them in arbitration?


but like why dont they just trade there rights?
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Timmah007
Because most aren’t worth qualifying offer. Guaranteed every gm attempted to move them but need a dancing partner


Quoting: habs_fan123
but like why dont they just trade there rights?


Can’t find a partner, less money going around
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:46 p.m.
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Look at a guy like Evan Rodrigues. To qualify would mean that ultimately, the Leafs would be bound to pay him whatever the upgraded salary was over what he was paid last season, which I believe was $2 million, but he's not worth that at all.
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:47 p.m.
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I've been wondering the same. Guys like Stecher, Antanesiou, Kuhan, Ducliar and more are not getting QA's, don't really get it.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:48 p.m.
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Flat cap
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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but like why dont they just trade there rights?


Very little teams being able to pay the price
Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:51 p.m.
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If oilers qualified AA at 3million that can backfire huge on the team. If he brought it to arbitration no telling what the ruling would be. Not risking an outsider looking at the 30 goal season he had a year before and averaged around 20 the two prior. Very possible rules a 20-25% pay raise so suddenly oilers would be on the hook for upwards of 4 million now for a guy who managed 1 goal and 1 assist with the team. Not risking without knowing how arbitration will take into account leagues revenue loss.
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.
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Not sure why Duclair wasn't qualified, worst case you overpay him by a million for 1 year, which we can afford to do. I get it for guys like Athanasiou and Rodrigues who are not worth their QO, but Duke is definitely worth his 1.65 QO, and even if he gets 5mil in arb, it's only for 1 year and we're below the floor, so that's a garbage move.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I've been wondering the same. Guys like Stecher, Antanesiou, Kuhan, Ducliar and more are not getting QA's, don't really get it.


Duclair is the only one that is mind bottling.
Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: habs_fan123
but like why dont they just trade there rights?


GMs aren't going to send a pick if they can just offer a contract to/sign this guy in less than 48 hours
Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:57 p.m.
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Duclair is the only one that is mind bottling.


kuhan is for me
Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:58 p.m.
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Quoting: habs_fan123
but like why dont they just trade there rights?


Other teams don't want to overpay them in arbitration either
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 6:58 p.m.
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1) Teams weren’t prepared for the cap to stay put and can’t afford to give raises to those depth guys anymore.

2) you’re also seeing way more buyouts for that exact same reason because no one is capable of taking big contracts even with some incentives

3) Top RFAs are demanding way too much money after coming off their ELC so teams have to make tough decisions on lower tier guys. No one is signing for what Pastrnak got anymore. Heck even now they’re considering trading Debrusk because he’s asking for too much money. Every top player want some of those Toronto type contracts and teams can’t afford that
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.
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Quoting: habs_fan123
kuhan is for me


Habs need to look at him hard!
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 7:12 p.m.
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1) Teams weren’t prepared for the cap to stay put and can’t afford to give raises to those depth guys anymore.

2) you’re also seeing way more buyouts for that exact same reason because no one is capable of taking big contracts even with some incentives

3) Top RFAs are demanding way too much money after coming off their ELC so teams have to make tough decisions on lower tier guys. No one is signing for what Pastrnak got anymore. Heck even now they’re considering trading Debrusk because he’s asking for too much money. Every top player want some of those Toronto type contracts and teams can’t afford that


Yeah, but Duclair...
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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Koekkoek not being re-signed infuriates me. Maybe our 2nd or 3rd best defenseman from this season and we let him go for nothing. Better be trying to bring him back for cheap
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Yeah, but Duclair...


He didn’t accept the Sens offer for a longterm contract, he wanted 5 years at 4+ mill, Sens didn’t give it to him.

His 1 year arbitration was around 4.5 mill, Sens didn’t wanna give it to him.

There was no other option
Oct. 7, 2020 at 7:15 p.m.
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Koekkoek not being re-signed infuriates me. Maybe our 2nd or 3rd best defenseman from this season and we let him go for nothing. Better be trying to bring him back for cheap


With Beaudin, Carlson, Mitchell pushing for spots and Dehaan and Seabrook still in the fold, it seemed inevitable from my POV
Oct. 7, 2020 at 7:21 p.m.
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Other teams don't want to overpay them in arbitration either


Exactly that, especially if teams have internal budgets and caps bc of covid, arbitration doesn’t care about that
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Oct. 7, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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With Beaudin, Carlson, Mitchell pushing for spots and Dehaan and Seabrook still in the fold, it seemed inevitable from my POV


Still don't like it. With the way he played this year, you make room him, especially considering how cheap he'll probably be in comparison to De Haan and Seabrook. Even if they weren't going to keep him for next year, at least get something back for him, it sucks. And if there's no market, just keep him
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Oct. 8, 2020 at 8:27 a.m.
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
Still don't like it. With the way he played this year, you make room him, especially considering how cheap he'll probably be in comparison to De Haan and Seabrook. Even if they weren't going to keep him for next year, at least get something back for him, it sucks. And if there's no market, just keep him


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Exactly that, especially if teams have internal budgets and caps bc of covid, arbitration doesn’t care about that


Quoting: csick
With Beaudin, Carlson, Mitchell pushing for spots and Dehaan and Seabrook still in the fold, it seemed inevitable from my POV


Quoting: Lenny7
Yeah, but Duclair...


Quoting: OlegP
Habs need to look at him hard!


Quoting: moli92
Other teams don't want to overpay them in arbitration either


Quoting: bhavikp27
GMs aren't going to send a pick if they can just offer a contract to/sign this guy in less than 48 hours


Quoting: justaBoss
Very little teams being able to pay the price


Quoting: Saskleaf
I've been wondering the same. Guys like Stecher, Antanesiou, Kuhan, Ducliar and more are not getting QA's, don't really get it.


what abt bracco?
Oct. 8, 2020 at 8:31 a.m.
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what abt bracco?


Bracco is the GOATTTTT! Someone should sign him for Matthews-type money.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 9:19 a.m.
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what abt bracco?


Idk I doubt he makes it at this point
 
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