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No Tavares

Created by: Dougy
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 10, 2020
Published: Oct. 10, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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just wanted to see what type of team could be put together with the cap space from not having signed Tavares. With the added cap space I tried to be as fair as I could with the different contracts.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
2$1,600,000
4$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$3,600,000
2$2,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Kadri, Nazem
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cancel the kadri trade since we would've keeped him if Tavares did not come to the team
2.
TOR
  1. 2022 7th round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
just to get rid of the cap hit
3.
TOR
  1. Weegar, MacKenzie [RFA Rights]
FLA
  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,296,450$0$0$1,203,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$3,600,000$3,600,000
C
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$900,000$900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 10, 2020 at 11:55 a.m.
#1
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Edited Oct. 10, 2020 at 12:03 p.m.
tbh I'd rather have tavares lol

all this does is make you overpay for bad depth players
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Oct. 10, 2020 at 11:56 a.m.
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Kadri was traded after Tavares' first season in Toronto and he's not the reason Kadri was traded.

It's because in 14 playoff games in two years Kadri played 3
Oct. 10, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
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This team is worse. I will say that Tavares got marner that contract tho so he probably would’ve signed for less.
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Oct. 10, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
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Lol Eakin above Kadri and at a 3.6 million dollar deal???!!! HAHAAHAHA. Perry making 2 mill to play on the 4th line is also hillarious lmao

Eakin gets 2 mill max from any team, and I would rather have Haula anyway.
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Oct. 10, 2020 at 12:03 p.m.
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You can play this woulda-coulda-shoulda game all day long, it doesn't matter. Tavares is a leafs, and it's great.
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Oct. 10, 2020 at 12:11 p.m.
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If Tavares never signs, I think Matthews accepts 10M; Nylander doesn't hold out for 7.5; and Marner would be more willing to accept ~8.5M. Leafs would have likely saved 3-4.5M on top of the 11M for Tavares. No doubt contracts for Johnsson and Kapanen would have been less too, and they could have kept Brown

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Mikheyev - Kadri - Brown
Johnsson - Nylander - Kapanen
Barabanov - Engvall/Spezza - Simmonds

Money saved by not signing Tavares + the difference between Kerfoot and Brown's contract, maybe they could afford both Pietrangelo and Brodie. Maybe.

Rielly - Pietrangelo
Muzzin - Brodie
Dermott - Lehtonen/Holl

MAYBE.
Oct. 10, 2020 at 1:29 p.m.
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Go leafs go
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If Tavares never signs, I think Matthews accepts 10M; Nylander doesn't hold out for 7.5; and Marner would be more willing to accept ~8.5M. Leafs would have likely saved 3-4.5M on top of the 11M for Tavares. No doubt contracts for Johnsson and Kapanen would have been less too, and they could have kept Brown

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Mikheyev - Kadri - Brown
Johnsson - Nylander - Kapanen
Barabanov - Engvall/Spezza - Simmonds

Money saved by not signing Tavares + the difference between Kerfoot and Brown's contract, maybe they could afford both Pietrangelo and Brodie. Maybe.

Rielly - Pietrangelo
Muzzin - Brodie
Dermott - Lehtonen/Holl

MAYBE.


Nope. If you just do the math, you will find the combo of Brown (lets say he signs for 3.3 mil now), Kapanen and Kadri, this add to 11 mil, which just so happens to be exactly what Tavares is payed. Sure, it take out roster spot, so it lessens 1.5 mil, but nonetheless, that is how much needs to be cleared to get under the cap. It is nowhere close to enough to sign Pietro. People greatly overexaderate how much Tavares costs.
Oct. 10, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Nope. If you just do the math, you will find the combo of Brown (lets say he signs for 3.3 mil now), Kapanen and Kadri, this add to 11 mil, which just so happens to be exactly what Tavares is payed. Sure, it take out roster spot, so it lessens 1.5 mil, but nonetheless, that is how much needs to be cleared to get under the cap. It is nowhere close to enough to sign Pietro. People greatly overexaderate how much Tavares costs.


I did do the math. If Matthews et la. took 1-1.5M less; Johnsson and Kapanen took 0.2M less, you could sign Pietrangelo at 9, and Brodie at 5, with room to spare.

Tavares inflated the price of Toronto's RFAs. You're gonna see the same thing with Panarin in NY once Zibanejad, LaFreniere, and Kaako are due raises and have Panarin as a comparable at 11.5
Oct. 10, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
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I did do the math. If Matthews et la. took 1-1.5M less; Johnsson and Kapanen took 0.2M less, you could sign Pietrangelo at 9, and Brodie at 5, with room to spare.

Tavares inflated the price of Toronto's RFAs. You're gonna see the same thing with Panarin in NY once Zibanejad, LaFreniere, and Kaako are due raises and have Panarin as a comparable at 11.5


It's a little unfair to say this, the big 4 could have demanded just as much minus Tavares, also 1.5 less is not equal to 9.
 
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