100% yes from the Blues

It's a substantial package but I've seen some want Nils Lundkvist and Kaapo Kakko and some be okay with just a 1st. It's hard to value him.

Simple put it they need to clear cap which lowers the value a 1st is a lot but would be fine doing it for them

Chicago isn't doing that.

Adjust the picks or a bad destination?

If they get Pietrangelo yeah but otherwise no.

Nah, I just want the cap space. The picks and prospects is an added bonus. Would allow us to re-sign Petro.

I'll even take Steen half retained. I would move the solar system to get Vince Dunn in a Rangers jersey. Watching the Blues in their 2019 Cup run just showcased how good he was and how effective he'd be on our team. Hope we come together on a deal in reality!

Both. Buyout window is closed, and he isn't playing on our D. Picks are also not enough.

Gotcha. Thanks for the input.

I think STL and NYR are good trade partners, but what you are offering isn't what the Blues need. Hajek is a LHD with promise, but the Note already has Perunovich, Mikkola, and Tucker. All three are likely NHLers, with Perunovich possibly being a stud. Mikkola is a shutdown defenseman. Tucker is a big boy with a big shot who easily slots in as a #6 or 7 defenseman to start. While Vierling is a center (bonus points there), the Blues already have Alexandrov and Leferriere waiting in the wings. Alexandrov probably makes the team late next year and is a regular the following. Laferriere - if he sticks at center - is goingto turn out as a late round steal who turns into a scorer. (He may be a RWer when all is said and done though.) The Blues have great depth at goalie, so Garand likely doesn't move the needle.

You are offering some good players and picks, no doubt; but if the Note is to move a stud like Dunn, it has to fill some of our holes too. Dunn's absence will be filled by Krug and Perunovich. Scandella and Mikkola round out the LHD future, with Gunnarsson playing one more year. ROR, Schenn, Thomas, Sunqvist, Alexandrov, and maybe Barbashev (if he's not moved) occupy the center roles. Binnington and Husso will hold the goalie position until Hofer boots both out. The Blues need a LW scorer, and to a lesser extent, a RW scorer (especially since Tarasenko's return play is an unknown). Kyrou, Blais, and (maybe) Kostin can fill out the RW spots, but all only have shown promising ceilings. We need a promising "floor."

This basically means that of the guys New York would possibly consider moving, Kravstov is obviously tops, with Pajuniemi a distant second. None of NY's minor league LWers are very interesting, at least not for a player of Dunn's caliber. If New York really does have interest in Bozak (who definitely is not of negative value), I'd offer Bozak and Dunn for Kravstov, a 2021 1st, and either a 2022 2nd round pick (with retention), a 2021 3rd (with no retention), or maybe Vierling if you think he could play LW. Basically Dunn for the first two, and Bozak for one of the final three.

Dunn is not a cap compliancy dump. Bozak would be, PLUS we are already under the cap right now. If we traded away Sanford, and Bozak we would be just fine. We have no need for this type of deal, AND Vince Dunn is already a Top 4 Defenseman with better stats than a lot of the top Defenseman.







This is why Blues wouldn't do this deal. Specifically. Because a bunch of spare parts doesn't justify getting rid of this type of performance, and it's not just this season.



This is the past 4 years, so yet again. It would cost a First and Kravtsov to even remotely be close for him on the table. It's not worth it to us. It would not be worth it at all for us. Yes I understand Perunovich is coming up, but we should be looking into getting rid of Gunnarsson, and Scandella. That brings Perunovich up, but at the same time Perunovich is a year out. So making this deal on a win now team makes us down grade. It doesn't make sense for the Blues at all if we aren't getting substantial value back for him.

I would only do the deal if we had a contract in place for Petro.

First off, appreciate the insightful response. Secondly, I don't envision Vitali Kravtsov being moved at all. I think if Lauri Pajuniemi is of interest for STL I would definitely be handcuffed to do a deal like that with taking Bozak's contract and adding a 1st-round pick. As a huge fan of Pajuniemi, I think it's a fair offer for sure. I've watched him since 2018 and think he has serious potential. 26 goals in Liiga isn't nothing to scoff at. I can't put into words how much I would love Vince Dunn in a NYR uniform, but in our rebuilding process, we simply can't trade top guys especially when these prospects we can part with are still very good, trading a 1st +, and taking $5M off the books to bring back Pietrangelo.

So, would this trade work? If not, how would you adjust to your liking?

- RW Lauri Pajuniemi
- C Evan Vierling
- 2021-1st round pick (Top 10 Protected)

- LHD Vince Dunn (RFA Rights)
- C Tyler Bozak

Scandella is probably out. Mikkola is good, but I'm not sure he's doing enough to make it onto the roster.

And that's just not gonna happen. Vegas is pretty close to signing him.

I agree, but if we get Bozak off the books and Steen stays on LTIR or retires like I've been hearing, we would have the cap to make it work.
I expected to hear he signed with Vegas tonight but nothing yet.

If it came down to it, would you do my proposal if it mean't retaining Pietrangelo?

No I wouldn't Blues aren't signing Pietrangelo. It's already pretty known that he's signing with Vegas. And in this instance Steen LTIR, Bozak and Sanford gone, and I mean even De La rose and a couple other players should be gone as well. We could sign Pietrangelo, but it's pretty much out of the way.

Carlo Colaiacovo said Pietrangelo won't be making a decision tonight.

I’m not deminishing Dunn’s value bc I love him as a player but when ur taking on a type of “cap” dump (yes I know he can still play) in bozak value goes down a 1st, rykov and howden (maybe another pick) should be able to realistically get it done

I'd still do this no problem. I love Pajuniemi but Vince Dunn would make us a serious contender.

Probably not. I like Dunn. We need to get younger, and Pietrangelo just isn't that.

Not in Blues idea. Bozak is still very serviceable as a 3C. He's not any type of dump or negative value. If you want Dunn in any deal it includes a first probably Top 5 protected, and Kravtsov.