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Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals
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Obviously trading Dillon back, right after he re-signed, is the least likely move here, but I kind of got into cap trouble at the end and still wanted to add a scoring wing to replace Oshie. For realism, let's say that one happens after Schmidt takes his top-four spot and he requests a move back to the beach.

Are these fair? Who adds what?
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:18 a.m.
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They need to dump Jensen or Hags. This team is going to be good
Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:35 a.m.
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NSH - before FA maybe, but not aymore. They have their top 8 on D now that they've added Boro + Benning in FA. I like Siegenthaler, but he doesn't make much sense for NSH now. And Jarnkrok > Panik, so it just doesn't work. Maybe after next season if NSH trades Ekholm, but not for now.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.
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No, that dosen't help our rebuild. That being said Bowman probably does it.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:37 a.m.
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NSH - before FA maybe, but not aymore. They have their top 8 on D now that they've added Boro + Benning in FA. I like Siegenthaler, but he doesn't make much sense for NSH now. And Jarnkrok > Panic, so it just doesn't work. Maybe after next season if NSH trades Ekholm, but not for now.


Thanks. I could imagine WSH being more interested in Ekholm now that Kempny is out for the year, but it sounds like you're saying NSH shouldn't make changes on D this offseason. Makes sense. They do look nicely balanced.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:44 a.m.
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No, that dosen't help our rebuild. That being said Bowman probably does it.


Cool. Yeah. I don't think Bowman is rebuilding, either. I think he's counting on continued improvement from Boqvist and Dach to get the team into the mix, and looking to add supporting guys. With Toews rumored to be upset that Saad got traded, Oshie seems like a pretty close replacement. Was on pace for 31 goals and like 58 points this year, and had great puck possession stats. Can carry the puck through the neutral zone in the playoffs. But is signed until he'll be quite old. Jensen's as good as Murphy on defense and PK, but Murphy gets slightly more assists.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:44 a.m.
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No, that dosen't help our rebuild. That being said Bowman probably does it.

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Oct. 12, 2020 at 10:52 a.m.
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They need to dump Jensen or Hags. This team is going to be good


I think the Caps need to dump 2 guys. Panik or Hagelin, Jensen, Dowd. Vrana, Ovi, and Samsonov need contracts + Sigenthaler needs one also and I expect that he will get 2 million.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.
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I think the Caps need to dump 2 guys. Panik or Hagelin, Jensen, Dowd. Vrana, Ovi, and Samsonov need contracts + Sigenthaler needs one also and I expect that he will get 2 million.


Thanks. That is the conventional wisdom. However:

a: three of those contracts are next summer, and the easiest way to trade Panik or Hagelin next summer is to play them in the top six roles they're capable of and get each of them 20g 40p. That's also going ot reduce Vrana's ice time and keep his next contract from having to be as huge. He'll still get a big long-term deal, because he's awesome, but there's no sense trying to get him to 100 points in his contract year and then having to lose Ovechkin over it. That's what rebuilding teams do, to maximize trade returns at the deadline. Caps shouldn't plan on trading Vrana if they want to make the playoffs next year, which they easily can.

b: Dowd earns less than a prospect and can pass for a 3C in the event of an injury. Trading him doesn't clear significant cap space, because they still want to ice 23 guys. Pittsburgh will find somebody. Don't worry.

c: I traded all three of those other guys above in fair deals for guys I think have better name recognition, who would be easier to trade for cap space next summer, made the defense better, and kept the offense pretty good. Keeping the team good enough to win the division and lose the first round should be a nope.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Easy pass for SJ.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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Easy pass for SJ.


Thanks. What do they need? Do they have anyone likely available?
Oct. 12, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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Thanks. What do they need? Do they have anyone likely available?


Sorensen is available. We still need a 3 C unless thornton is still coming. Also need RHD but Labanc is too important rn.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.
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Sorensen is available. We still need a 3 C unless thornton is still coming. Also need RHD but Labanc is too important rn.


Caps don't have a 3C. Two 1C's who aren't going anywhere, and a secret 2C in Lars Eller (http://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20192020&seasonTo=20192020&gameType=2&position=C&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evPoints&page=0&pageSize=100) who is on a more valuable contract (lower cap hit, better defense, seven more even strength points) than Labanc, but certainly less valuable than Meier. The Caps have lost two passable 3C's to the salary cap in the last year, in Stephenson and Boyd. I posted multiple trade ideas sending each one to SJ, first. You're welcome.

Could see Sorensen for Panik to clear cap space. Panik finished last year with 20 even strength points in the last 36 games, so it's a big win for SJ, but Panik started last year with just 2 points in 21 games, playing through an injury, so Caps fans think he's terrible, and most wouldn't miss him. That lets the Caps move Hathaway up to 3R, and play Sorensen at 4L/PK2. Panik could play 2R or 3R in SJ. Had a 44 point season at 2R in Chi, I think. NHL.com has him listed at RW, but he played each side about as much in WSH. Almost as good as Sorensen on PK, but better at scoring goals down low, in front of the net, and more used to playing the right side. And more expensive, so maybe WSH adds a 5th, because cap space.

Does that sound interesting?
Oct. 12, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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Thanks. That is the conventional wisdom. However:

a: three of those contracts are next summer, and the easiest way to trade Panik or Hagelin next summer is to play them in the top six roles they're capable of and get each of them 20g 40p. That's also going ot reduce Vrana's ice time and keep his next contract from having to be as huge. He'll still get a big long-term deal, because he's awesome, but there's no sense trying to get him to 100 points in his contract year and then having to lose Ovechkin over it. That's what rebuilding teams do, to maximize trade returns at the deadline. Caps shouldn't plan on trading Vrana if they want to make the playoffs next year, which they easily can.

b: Dowd earns less than a prospect and can pass for a 3C in the event of an injury. Trading him doesn't clear significant cap space, because they still want to ice 23 guys. Pittsburgh will find somebody. Don't worry.

c: I traded all three of those other guys above in fair deals for guys I think have better name recognition, who would be easier to trade for cap space next summer, made the defense better, and kept the offense pretty good. Keeping the team good enough to win the division and lose the first round should be a nope.


I'm not worried about Pittsburgh. We need a better third line. McCann is good but I don't get Rodrigues and Jankoswki
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 12:28 p.m.
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I think the Caps need to dump 2 guys. Panik or Hagelin, Jensen, Dowd. Vrana, Ovi, and Samsonov need contracts + Sigenthaler needs one also and I expect that he will get 2 million.


Siegs will more than likely get 1.5 or less. Capitals pay a 2nd for Seattle to take oshie... makes sense sinces he's from there and the team will be looking to sell tickets. Oshie is a 50 point winger
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 12:32 p.m.
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Siegs will more than likely get 1.5 or less. Capitals pay a 2nd for Seattle to take oshie... makes sense sinces he's from there and the team will be looking to sell tickets. Oshie is a 50 point winger


Now if you lose Oshie, would you guys have to fish in the market for a top 6 winger, or the trade market?
Oct. 12, 2020 at 12:38 p.m.
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Now if you lose Oshie, would you guys have to fish in the market for a top 6 winger, or the trade market?


its possible ... ALl depends on how well CM develops this upcoming year. He SHOULD be the captain of team Canada in the World Juniors. if he can make the team next year you can move Eller up to 2c until CM is ready to play 2c and have Kuzy play wing OR maybe Sprong looks good and can play up there. Hard to say we also just draft LAPIERRE who was a "top 10" talent who was hit w an injury bug. Him and CM will be pushing for a roster spot in the next 2 years. I think OPanik will have a big year he can MAybe make the jump hard to say but the cap space we gain from Oshie is much needed
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 12:45 p.m.
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Now if you lose Oshie, would you guys have to fish in the market for a top 6 winger, or the trade market?


Panik finished strong last year with 20 points in the last 36 games, all at evens or shorthanded. That projects to 45 plus more if he gets power play time. Hathaway can move up to 3rd line. Sprong might also keep developing and overtake both.

Protas just broke his team's record for goals by a 19 year old in the KHL, yesterday. Already. He's listed as a center, but in a top six that has two good Russian players, maybe he could learn to play RW? Or maybe Kuznetsov could.

Oshie's great on puck possession but any good team can lose one terrific player and stay good. Pittsburgh does it every year. Do you miss Hornqvist?
Oct. 12, 2020 at 12:46 p.m.
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its possible ... ALl depends on how well CM develops this upcoming year. He SHOULD be the captain of team Canada in the World Juniors. if he can make the team next year you can move Eller up to 2c until CM is ready to play 2c and have Kuzy play wing OR maybe Sprong looks good and can play up there. Hard to say we also just draft LAPIERRE who was a "top 10" talent who was hit w an injury bug. Him and CM will be pushing for a roster spot in the next 2 years. I think OPanik will have a big year he can MAybe make the jump hard to say but the cap space we gain from Oshie is much needed


Ah ok. Also, Sprong is very confusing. He lights the lamp in the AHL but he does nothing in the NHL. I think he just needs a shot on the first line. I could be wrong.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 12:51 p.m.
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Panik finished strong last year with 20 points in the last 36 games, all at evens or shorthanded. That projects to 45 plus more if he gets power play time. Hathaway can move up to 3rd line. Sprong might also keep developing and overtake both.

Protas just broke his team's record for goals by a 19 year old in the KHL, yesterday. Already. He's listed as a center, but in a top six that has two good Russian players, maybe he could learn to play RW? Or maybe Kuznetsov could.

Oshie's great on puck possession but any good team can lose one terrific player and stay good. Pittsburgh does it every year. Do you miss Hornqvist?


Yes, very I miss Horny a lot. He played a lot like Oshie. Horny was the heart and soul of the Pens Cup runs just like how Oshie is now with the Caps. Horny will be missed a ton. GMJR has hurt the pens with trades a lot. In the athletic, one of the Pens writers asked the players what was the worst trade that JR made and it was the Hagelin trade that was the worst and it killed the Pens locker room and I think Horny just never overcame the lost of Hags. Losing Hags was tough but it's a business I am betting against Sprong, he has huge potential to light up the lamp but I don't know it's confusing.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.
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Ah ok. Also, Sprong is very confusing. He lights the lamp in the AHL but he does nothing in the NHL. I think he just needs a shot on the first line. I could be wrong.


its very possible im not very high on him but some capitals fan are
Oct. 12, 2020 at 1:43 p.m.
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its very possible im not very high on him but some capitals fan are


I wouldn't be. Sad to see Holtby go. him and Ovi were the only guys I liked from Washington
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.
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I wouldn't be. Sad to see Holtby go. him and Ovi were the only guys I liked from Washington


Of right wings with twenty games played in the last two years, Sprong is top twenty in goals/60. Usually not the most predictive stat, especially when guys have played on teams with great linemates available to help young guys get started, but it might show some potential to develop from.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.
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I wouldn't be. Sad to see Holtby go. him and Ovi were the only guys I liked from Washington


how can you not love Backy? unless you dont like him bc you picked Staal over him
Oct. 12, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.
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Of right wings with twenty games played in the last two years, Sprong is top twenty in goals/60. Usually not the most predictive stat, especially when guys have played on teams with great linemates available to help young guys get started, but it might show some potential to develop from.

Sprong has it.
I begged for Guentzel-Crosby-Sprong Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel in 2018-19
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 2:04 p.m.
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Caps don't have a 3C. Two 1C's who aren't going anywhere, and a secret 2C in Lars Eller (http://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20192020&seasonTo=20192020&gameType=2&position=C&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evPoints&page=0&pageSize=100) who is on a more valuable contract (lower cap hit, better defense, seven more even strength points) than Labanc, but certainly less valuable than Meier. The Caps have lost two passable 3C's to the salary cap in the last year, in Stephenson and Boyd. I posted multiple trade ideas sending each one to SJ, first. You're welcome.

Could see Sorensen for Panik to clear cap space. Panik finished last year with 20 even strength points in the last 36 games, so it's a big win for SJ, but Panik started last year with just 2 points in 21 games, playing through an injury, so Caps fans think he's terrible, and most wouldn't miss him. That lets the Caps move Hathaway up to 3R, and play Sorensen at 4L/PK2. Panik could play 2R or 3R in SJ. Had a 44 point season at 2R in Chi, I think. NHL.com has him listed at RW, but he played each side about as much in WSH. Almost as good as Sorensen on PK, but better at scoring goals down low, in front of the net, and more used to playing the right side. And more expensive, so maybe WSH adds a 5th, because cap space.

Does that sound interesting?

We’re getting of Sörensen to clear a space for a rookie not another vet
 
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