Holy crap I hate this trade

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Created by: Hawkisles

Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 12, 2020

Published: Oct. 12, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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1. Toews is a top 4 guy now and had top pairing potential. Neither of those picks will get a return that even resembles that.
2. Our left side on defense just got a lot worse, and now we’re pretty much forced to keep Leddy, who was our best option for a trade that could drop cap without throwing away future assets. Losing Leddy through waivers would have been better on all fronts than this.
3. Those 2nd Rounders will, at best, be used to drop a bad contract, but I feel like we have enough prospects in our system where if a team demanded the equivalent of 2 2nd rounders in futures, we could have supplied that.
3. Even from a cap clearing perspective, Toews was the one who wanted the least money. Trading Pulock would have been the better option. There are more right shots still on the market, he would have yielded a much better return and we still have Wilde and Dobson to replace him in the long term. You can’t tell me Aho or Bolduc will effectively fill in for Toews, short or long term.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Barzal, Mathew	8	$10,000,000
Ho-Sang, Joshua	2	$900,000
Greer, AJ	3	$900,000
Vande Sompel, Mitch	3	$900,000
Pulock, Ryan	8	$6,000,000

Trades

NYI

Who knows

ANA

Boychuk, Johnny
2021 2nd round pick (COL)
2022 2nd round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

Fine. Whatever.

Buyouts

Rick DiPietro: $0

Buried

Thomas Hickey: $1,425,000 ($2,500,000)
Andrew Ladd: $4,425,000 ($5,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$81,119,167	$0	$537,500	$380,833

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lee, Anders $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW NTC UFA - 6	Barzal, Mathew $10,000,000$10,000,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Eberle, Jordan $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 4
Beauvillier, Anthony $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Nelson, Brock $6,000,000$6,000,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Bailey, Josh $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW, C UFA - 4
Komarov, Leo $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW, LW, C M-NTC UFA - 2	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $5,000,000$5,000,000 C NTC UFA - 6	Dal Colle, Michael $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1
Johnston, Ross $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Cizikas, Casey $3,350,000$3,350,000 C UFA - 1	Clutterbuck, Cal $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pelech, Adam $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Pulock, Ryan $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 2	Varlamov, Semyon $5,000,000$5,000,000 G NTC UFA - 3
Leddy, Nick $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD UFA - 2	Dobson, Noah $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RD RFA - 2	Sorokin, Ilya $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Aho, Sebastian $725,000$725,000 LD UFA - 2	Mayfield, Scott $1,450,000$1,450,000 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Greer, AJ $900,000$900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Ho-Sang, Joshua $900,000$900,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Vande Sompel, Mitch $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 2

Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:12 p.m.

#51

AndrewLadd

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Quoting: Isles777

I think bottom pair as well but a lot of scouts see 2nd pairing D after his great season. I have a lot more faith in Aho - I think he can be a stud

I like Aho too, I was always impressed w his stint in 2018. Bolduc tho, I see pretty much as Mayfield but a lefty

Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:19 p.m.

#52

Isles777

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Quoting: AndrewLadd

I like Aho too, I was always impressed w his stint in 2018. Bolduc tho, I see pretty much as Mayfield but a lefty

I agree with you that he’s a left mayfield, but he skates like Noah Dobson - could that make him a 2nd pairing D? I guess we’ll find out

Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:21 p.m.

#53

AndrewLadd

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Quoting: Isles777

I agree with you that he’s a left mayfield, but he skates like Noah Dobson - could that make him a 2nd pairing D? I guess we’ll find out

Possibly, u never know what u can get w a prospect until u try them out at the NHL

Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:22 p.m.

#54

Isles777

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Quoting: AndrewLadd

Possibly, u never know what u can get w a prospect until u try them out at the NHL

Tell that to barry trotz

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Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:24 p.m.

#55

MarkWinnipeg

Joined: Jun. 2018

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I
DO
NOT
UNDERSTAND
THIS
TRADE

There are eight teams that can afford to take on a 4-5 million dollar player right now and fill out a roster after signing there own RFA'S so moving anyone to clear cap is going to cost a loy. You have two big ticket ones in Pulock and Barzel. Most likely have to buy out Leddy.

Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.

#56

BuFfaLOFaN

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Quoting: Isles777

how is a Sabres fan talking sh*t lol - hey , at least the they’ll be able to package hall and Eichel for a good return before the trade deadline

🤣 Atleast I can feel bad ..I have to live with the sabres

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Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:39 p.m.

#57

Isles777

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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN

🤣 Atleast I can feel bad ..I have to live with the sabres

Since you want to see barzal play in a more offensive minded system, barzal for Eichel . 1 v 1

Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:59 p.m.

#58

Hawkisles

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Quoting: Isles777

I think bottom pair as well but a lot of scouts see 2nd pairing D after his great season. I have a lot more faith in Aho - I think he can be a stud

I think we don’t really have a LHD prospect with Top 4 potential, which is why I was so against the Toews trade. Now we have to rely in Leddy, who’s a 2nd pairing at best, and Pelech, who is a 2nd pairing guy held aloft by his good chemistry with Pulock.

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Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:04 p.m.

#59

BuFfaLOFaN

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Quoting: Isles777

Since you want to see barzal play in a more offensive minded system, barzal for Eichel . 1 v 1

Sheesh...I'd rather watch Eichel... He does all barzals does he's just better defensively and bigger imo...but I don't watch much of Barzal vs Eichel

Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:11 p.m.

#60

Isles777

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Quoting: Hawkisles

I will die on the hill that Aho is a 2nd pairing caliber defenseman right now. He’s going to be a poor mans toews. Bolduc im not that high on but a lot of people are so we’ll see

I don’t think pelech is as good as the rest of the fanbase thinks he is - they think he’s a #1, but the reality is his lack of offense means he’s just a good top pairing D. He plays some of the toughest minutes in the league and still has an elite defensive impact, he definitely brings top line value.

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