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Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 12, 2020
Published: Oct. 12, 2020
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RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
4$4,000,000
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,552,262$0$2,500,000$947,738
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
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UFA - 1
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
C
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 1

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Oct. 12, 2020 at 7:45 p.m.
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Every owner should block Sakic's number from their GM's phone
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 7:46 p.m.
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Do you think Sakic moves out some more cap? With Makars performance bonuses they are almost guaranteed to have overages with this roster. What do you think about moving out Cole or Donskoi?
Oct. 12, 2020 at 7:47 p.m.
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Toews was a great pick-up. Didn't think NYI was going to move him.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 7:48 p.m.
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Quoting: moli92
Do you think Sakic moves out some more cap? With Makars performance bonuses they are almost guaranteed to have overages with this roster. What do you think about moving out Cole or Donskoi?


He's an RFA. They can do a 1YR, Show-Me deal for less than $4M. They can then extend him at any point during the season.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 7:53 p.m.
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He's an RFA. They can do a 1YR, Show-Me deal for less than $4M. They can then extend him at any point during the season.


Wouldn't a 1 year deal make him expire as a UFA? He will be 27 next offseason. Even on a 1 year term I dont think he would get that much less than 4M tbh
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:08 p.m.
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Wouldn't a 1 year deal make him expire as a UFA? He will be 27 next offseason. Even on a 1 year term I dont think he would get that much less than 4M tbh


Yep. My guess is a $5 x 5, but hopefully it's less with the flat cap. Feel like they have to move out some money now. Likely Cole, Compher, or Donskoi in my mind
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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I am super curious to what Jost QO is because there isn’t a lot of incentive for the Avs to NOT kick that can down the road a yr.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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Yep. My guess is a $5 x 5, but hopefully it's less with the flat cap. Feel like they have to move out some money now. Likely Cole, Compher, or Donskoi in my mind


If I had to move someone it would be Donskoi. He's solid depth but 3.9 is a bit steep for him imo. I just don't know how many teams would be interested in him. Maybe wait until Hoffman and Dadonov sign then try to trade him to a team who missed out on a UFA winger?
Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:20 p.m.
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I am super curious to what Jost QO is because there isn’t a lot of incentive for the Avs to NOT kick that can down the road a yr.


I think Sakic said Jost will either sign his 874k QO or they will work on a 2 year deal. Either way it'll probably be a pretty cheap deal
Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Every owner should block Sakic's number from their GM's phone


Agreed for the DToews deal naturally (wow!) but I wasn't a fan of the Saad deal as he's a UFA-1 and Zadorov is going to be heavily valued (wrongly) by the league as a big mobile D-first guy in a few years, and with all the good cheap W depth still on the market...
Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:58 p.m.
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If I had to move someone it would be Donskoi. He's solid depth but 3.9 is a bit steep for him imo. I just don't know how many teams would be interested in him. Maybe wait until Hoffman and Dadonov sign then try to trade him to a team who missed out on a UFA winger?


Yep. Senators still need to get to the cap floor, so could be an option. Maybe the devils as well? Still a lot of action left here. I'd say we're about three-fourths of the way done, especially since Tampa still has to figure out everything on their end
Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:00 p.m.
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I'm gonna just leave this here for those of you who haven't read it. Can't even express how stoked I am about the Toews deal now after reading this. #InSakicWeTrust
https://hbanalytics.substack.com/p/devon-toews-the-most-underrated-player

Quoting: moli92
Do you think Sakic moves out some more cap? With Makars performance bonuses they are almost guaranteed to have overages with this roster. What do you think about moving out Cole or Donskoi?

I would love for them to move Cole, but only if they could find an experienced RD to take his roster slot. Those aren't exactly growing on trees. If you could find a dependable stay-at-home RH defender you could pair him with Girard and slide Johnson down. Or if you find someone with some offense you could pair them with Graves on the 3rd pairing to give us 3 versatile lines. Moving Cole has been on my wishlist for every team I've created and in my eyes he's by far the worst contract on the team, even at only $4M. But with such a young defensive corps I can't see them jettisoning him without having another vet to bring in. My pipedream would be adding Cernak to the second line with Sam, but pretty doubtful we have any other moves that big left to pull off at this point.

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If I had to move someone it would be Donskoi. He's solid depth but 3.9 is a bit steep for him imo. I just don't know how many teams would be interested in him. Maybe wait until Hoffman and Dadonov sign then try to trade him to a team who missed out on a UFA winger?

I could see them moving Donskoi as well, but I do think he had a bit of an up and down year with the injuries. He started off great, but when he came back he got shuffled around a lot as injuries kept piling up and never really found his groove again. With our current lines, he'd slot in on the 3rd line where he's probably best situated, and could actually thrive there against the guys he'd be facing night in and out. $3.9M AAV is probably a bit steep for a 3rd line wing, but he may very well give us an advantage on that line most nights. In an ideal world, we'd swap him for a gritty two-way 3C and push Compher to the wing, but I guess we'll see what else Joe has in mind to finish things off.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:01 p.m.
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Quoting: moli92
Do you think Sakic moves out some more cap? With Makars performance bonuses they are almost guaranteed to have overages with this roster. What do you think about moving out Cole or Donskoi?


Posted this elsewhere (might have even been your thread), but I think they'll be ok. If you get close to the trade deadline with no "help" from LTIR, the maybe you move Cole. They don't need to do anything rash though. Also, depending on the bonus breakdown, it may not be as big of a concern (if part of it is only earned if he wins the Conn Smythe, I think you just take your chances)
Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
Posted this elsewhere (might have even been your thread), but I think they'll be ok. If you get close to the trade deadline with no "help" from LTIR, the maybe you move Cole. They don't need to do anything rash though. Also, depending on the bonus breakdown, it may not be as big of a concern (if part of it is only earned if he wins the Conn Smythe, I think you just take your chances)


Yeah there are some schedule B bonuses that are unlikely, but getting 850k of schedule A bonuses is very easily doable for Makar. You're right about LTIR, that will likely save some cap. Depending on Toews contract they could be cutting it close, but they will probably be fine. Trading Cole at the deadline is a good option to have in your back pocket - that's a good point
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:15 p.m.
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I think Sakic said Jost will either sign his 874k QO or they will work on a 2 year deal. Either way it'll probably be a pretty cheap deal

Was his QO 874?
Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:17 p.m.
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Was his QO 874?


$874,125 yeah
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 9:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Radu47
Agreed for the DToews deal naturally (wow!) but I wasn't a fan of the Saad deal as he's a UFA-1 and Zadorov is going to be heavily valued (wrongly) by the league as a big mobile D-first guy in a few years, and with all the good cheap W depth still on the market...


I think that's about the best they could have expected for Zadorov

Saad was a better fit for their roster needs than Hoffman/Dadonov/etc.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.
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Yeah there are some schedule B bonuses that are unlikely, but getting 850k of schedule A bonuses is very easily doable for Makar. You're right about LTIR, that will likely save some cap. Depending on Toews contract they could be cutting it close, but they will probably be fine. Trading Cole at the deadline is a good option to have in your back pocket - that's a good point


Having the Eagles close by could help too, as they can roll with 20 or 21 man rosters on home stands. Chip away day by day.
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Oct. 13, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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you nailed it on this one.
this is how I see it playing out.

only question mark for this team is the placement of Graves/Toews. If it aint broke, dont fix it a.k.a the Graves/Makar pairing
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Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
you nailed it on this one.
this is how I see it playing out.

only question mark for this team is the placement of Graves/Toews. If it aint broke, dont fix it a.k.a the Graves/Makar pairing


I think this is the most realistic outlook as well, but in yesterday's presser Sakic was asked about the defence and did talk about the importance of having good depth, so I think he'll bring in another 7D type. Last year we had tonnes of guys there (Barberio/Graves/Rosen/Connauton/Byram/Timmins/MacDonald), so I could see him going with an extra 7D again, especially if they're very cheap to sign.

I'd also like to add another 13th F at a bargain contract (eg. Nieto signed today in SJ at $700k x 1 year).

In terms of question marks, neither Graves or Toews are known for being good PKers, and we lack a 2nd RHS option on the PK behind Johnson (it would be Cole playing his off-side). That's feels like nitpicking though.
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Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: moli92
Do you think Sakic moves out some more cap? With Makars performance bonuses they are almost guaranteed to have overages with this roster. What do you think about moving out Cole or Donskoi?


We don't really need $2.5m in capspace to cover Makar's bonus. Due to cap accrual even like $500k in empty space averaged out over the length of the season should be enough to cover that. Guys with big contracts being on IR for portions of the season should also give us some cap savings that accrue by the end of the season to cover his bonus.

At this point it's probably going to cost a decent asset to move Donskoi or Cole, so I'd only move them out if it's to open up capspace for someone like Cirelli if we can somehow steal him from Tampa.
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