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Lous Moves

Created by: Hockeygoalie53
Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 13, 2020
Published: Oct. 13, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Speculating here... but have to think that since Hoffman hasn't signed yet, he has an agreement with a team that needs to move out CAP first. Since no news or rumors have surfaced, it's possible that team is the Islanders (Lou's cone of silence).

Explanation for trades are listed in the trade.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$725,000
3$725,000
3$725,000
3$725,000
3$725,000
3$725,000
3$725,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
1$900,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
8$8,000,000
8$6,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$5,500,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Gáborík, Marián
  2. 2021 6th round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
OTT agrees to take on Ladd's contract since he is only owed 9m actual dollars over the next 3 years, but comes with a 5.5m CAP hit. They move out Gaborik's money in exchange for a player who can actually play.
OTT
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. Ho-Sang, Joshua
  3. Ladd, Andrew
  4. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Ladd is going to cost the most to move. With Hoffman signing the left side is secured with Lee, Hoffman and Beau making Bellows expendable. JHS gets moved after filing for ARB (Lou's comments seem to hint this way). Isles take Gaborik money to allow them to go over the CAP.
2.
NYI
  1. 2022 5th round pick (NJD)
3.
NYI
  1. 2023 6th round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Cockerill, Logan
  2. Komarov, Leo
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
4.
NYI
  1. Dubinsky, Brandon
Additional Details:
CLB gets a solid 3rd pairing LHD (appears they need one) for a CAP dump (Dubinsky is supposedly out for the year).
CBJ
  1. Hickey, Thomas
Additional Details:
NYI move Hickey for an LTIR contract to give them more CAP space.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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Logo of the NYI
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the NYI
2022
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Logo of the COL
Logo of the NYI
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Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NYI
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,488,334$0$1,075,000$5,011,666

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the New York Islanders
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the New York Islanders
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,350,000$3,350,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 3
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,875,000$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$5,850,000$5,850,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Oct. 13, 2020 at 9:20 a.m.
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So many Isles fans are just hoping that Boychuk and Ladd are waiving their NTC or even M NTC to go to lousy teams with cap. I just don't think that is practical to wish away their cap.
Teams just might want to take on long term cap of non NHLers and their salaries. In effect it's AHerL Ladd and his NHL salary and cap and and latefirst rounder....not very much
NJ can spend 6m cap better than Boychuk for two years for a just a 2nd rounder.
Oct. 13, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
So many Isles fans are just hoping that Boychuk and Ladd are waiving their NTC or even M NTC to go to lousy teams with cap. I just don't think that is practical to wish away their cap.
Teams just might want to take on long term cap of non NHLers and their salaries. In effect it's AHerL Ladd and his NHL salary and cap and and latefirst rounder....not very much
NJ can spend 6m cap better than Boychuk for two years for a just a 2nd rounder.


Ladd was willing to waive his clause last year when the Isles and Wild almost had a deal at the TDL. Also, these guys would rather play in the NHL than the AHL, so if it's a choice of playing regular minutes for an NHL team or being subjected to a bench or AHL role with the Isles, I think they can be convinced to waive. Also, both players now have modified clauses, meaning there are in fact teams they can be traded to without needing their permission.

As for the trades, these are based off of rumored teams interested in these players.
Oct. 13, 2020 at 9:49 a.m.
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I think three of your four trades are way imbalanced. Good logic, don't love the execution.
Oct. 13, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
Ladd was willing to waive his clause last year when the Isles and Wild almost had a deal at the TDL. Also, these guys would rather play in the NHL than the AHL, so if it's a choice of playing regular minutes for an NHL team or being subjected to a bench or AHL role with the Isles, I think they can be convinced to waive. Also, both players now have modified clauses, meaning there are in fact teams they can be traded to without needing their permission.

As for the trades, these are based off of rumored teams interested in these players.


The Minni trade was Parise...meaning equal or even more cap coming back to the Isles. I just think it so difficult to move high cap players without cap going both ways.
You're right about being sent to the AHL...but that only saves the team a maximum of 300,000 in cap. 1.075m minus the cost of the replacement.
Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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Columbus is gonna roll with Kukan-Peeke as the third pair (Kukan is left-handed, but has played on the right as well). So Hickey and his cap hit aren't attractive to us; if we wanted a third pair guy making $2.5M, we would have just kept Nutivaara.
Oct. 13, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
The Minni trade was Parise...meaning equal or even more cap coming back to the Isles. I just think it so difficult to move high cap players without cap going both ways.
You're right about being sent to the AHL...but that only saves the team a maximum of 300,000 in cap. 1.075m minus the cost of the replacement.


My reference to the Minn deal had nothing to do with what the Isles were giving up or getting back, it was merely to point out that Ladd has already agreed to waive his M-NTC once so getting him to do so a second time shouldn't be too difficult. Also, Ladd submits a list of 15 teams he can't be traded to... meaning there is another whole half of the league that he can be moved to without his consent. The NTC for Ladd isn't that big of an issue.
Oct. 13, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
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I think three of your four trades are way imbalanced. Good logic, don't love the execution.


Imbalanced as in, too much going from the Isles or not enough going? I feel the Ladd and Boychuk deals have too much going from the Isles, but given what CAP dumps are costing teams I figured those two would have to be over payments to move.
 
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