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Habs Making More Moves

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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 14, 2020
Published: Oct. 14, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$5,500,000
1$900,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (OTT)
2.
MTL
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$72,716,309$0$3,137,500$8,783,691
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$735,000$735,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 14, 2020 at 2:38 p.m.
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Lol neither of those contracts have remotely positive value
Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol neither of those contracts have remotely positive value


For a 3rd? I think it's possible to get those deals done. Regardless, trade them for a 4th or whatever. No big deal. They are not as difficult to move as you are implying
Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol neither of those contracts have remotely positive value


Lol yourself. Look at how much Edm is paying Koskinen and how much Arizona is paying Raanta, now try telling us that Jake Allen contract is worthless.
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Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
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For a 3rd? I think it's possible to get those deals done. Regardless, trade them for a 4th or whatever. No big deal. They are not as difficult to move as you are implying


Tyler Johnson wasn't claimed off waivers for free and he is marginally better than Byron, why tf would anyone take Byron without a sweetener attached?
Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:16 p.m.
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Lol yourself. Look at how much Edm is paying Koskinen and how much Arizona is paying Raanta, now try telling us that Jake Allen contract is worthless.
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Both are better than Allen for starters, especially Raanta. Raanta is making less than Allen too so that argument doesn't even make sense. Edmonton isn't trying to move Koskanen so that also doesn't make sense. Maybe you will get lucky and Seattle will take that Allen contract off you next year but no one is touching it right now
Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Tyler Johnson wasn't claimed off waivers for free and he is marginally better than Byron, why tf would anyone take Byron without a sweetener attached?


Blackhawks need a goalie and Allen fits. Fits better than any UFA goalie left on the market

Johnson has more term and a higher cap hit vs Byron. Byron has dealt with injuries in the last two years yes but he's healthy now. Byron's pt/game numbers over the last two years are pretty close to Johnson's. Byron had 4 pts in 10 games with a +4 rating this past playoffs while Johnson had 7 pts in 25 games and a -6 rating. Byron is a great piece to have on any teams roster. Dangerous on the PK and his speed can be a game changer on any given night.

* Johnson is owed $3.75M, $5.5M, $3.75M, and $4.75M
* Byron is owed $2.8M, $4M, $2.8M

You are making a big deal out of nothing. You move them for whatever you can get. It's not as difficult as you are implying. You got a better comparison than Johnson?
Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Both are better than Allen for starters, especially Raanta. Raanta is making less than Allen too so that argument doesn't even make sense. Edmonton isn't trying to move Koskanen so that also doesn't make sense. Maybe you will get lucky and Seattle will take that Allen contract off you next year but no one is touching it right now


You are underselling Allen. Allen's real value is in year 2 and 3 with the extension.
Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Both are better than Allen for starters, especially Raanta. Raanta is making less than Allen too so that argument doesn't even make sense. Edmonton isn't trying to move Koskanen so that also doesn't make sense. Maybe you will get lucky and Seattle will take that Allen contract off you next year but no one is touching it right now


I disagree with you 100%. Allen is better than both of those guys, and Allen took a pay hit over two years.
For a backup goalie who will be playing 25/30 games a year, this is a good contract.
The only thing I don't like about it is I am hoping Primeau can come in sooner.
Also, Bergy needs to have Allen signed for the Exp draft (he has to have a signed goalie to offer unprotected)
Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:38 p.m.
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Blackhawks need a goalie and Allen fits. Fits better than any UFA goalie left on the market

Johnson has more term and a higher cap hit vs Byron. Byron has dealt with injuries in the last two years yes but he's healthy now. Byron's pt/game numbers over the last two years are pretty close to Johnson's. Byron had 4 pts in 10 games with a +4 rating this past playoffs while Johnson had 7 pts in 25 games and a -6 rating. Byron is a great piece to have on any teams roster. Dangerous on the PK and his speed can be a game changer on any given night.

Your making a big deal out of nothing. You move them for whatever you can get. It's not as difficult as you are implying. You got a better comparison than Johnson?


Chicago has been very open about giving their young goalies the reins

Byron paced 28 points this year, Johnson paced 37. That's nearly a 10 point difference. Johnson is also a top 6 player on most teams where Byron is not. Sure Byron is a nice piece on any roster... if he cost the same as Toby Rieder.

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You are underselling Allen. Allen's real value is in year 2 and 3 with the extension.


How can I be underselling him if you are trying to trade him while his cap hit is still 4.35M?
Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
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Chicago has been very open about giving their young goalies the reins

Byron paced 28 points this year, Johnson paced 37. That's nearly a 10 point difference. Johnson is also a top 6 player on most teams where Byron is not. Sure Byron is a nice piece on any roster... if he cost the same as Toby Rieder.

How can I be underselling him if you are trying to trade him while his cap hit is still 4.35M?


Blackhawks are not a 100% rebuilding team. Delia and Subban is not likely what they end up with. I think they will add a proven goalie as insurance.

Pts/game is the better approach with Johnson and Byron and you know it! And you ignored the actual salary and term. All that matters. Byron is easier to move than Johnson. Reality

Allen is better than what you think! His cap hit this year is not low or high. If a team can fit it in and need a goalie, they will consider it. And the AAV in the 2nd and 3rd year is a steal!
 
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