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Stamkos Rumor to Vegas

Created by: TampaBayFan94
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 14, 2020
Published: Oct. 14, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
2$3,750,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$4,950,000
2$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$5,000,000
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1.
TBL
  1. Glass, Cody
  2. Tuch, Alex ($1,750,000 retained)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (VGK)
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EDM
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. Lipanov, Alexey
  3. 2022 1st round pick (TBL)
3.
4.
TBL
  1. Doughty, Drew ($5,000,000 retained)
LAK
  1. Foote, Cal
  2. Gourde, Yanni
  3. McDonagh, Ryan
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (VGK)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
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    $4,450,000$4,450,000
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
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    They’re over the cap already they aren’t about to try and add another big contract and retain on a player going out 😂
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    They’re over the cap already they aren’t about to try and add another big contract and retain on a player going out 😂


    Yah they will
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: TampaBayFan94
    Yah they will


    Ah I see you don’t have any logic, have a nice day
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
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    That Stamkos news is old I would have to believe. Vegas decided to make their big splash on Pietro, and they've already upset the locker room. Nothing would say team unity more than kicking out another 2 to make Stamkos fit.
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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    $5m retention for 7 years...
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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    not retaining on 7 years of Tuch
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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    Doughty isn't getting traded. The Kings most certainly aren't retaining $35M of his contract.
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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    Source??
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.
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    If another superstar goes to Vegas I will personally go burn down the TMobile Arena
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
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    Kings have zero reason to do this, they are currently rebuilding and have no need for cap space. Additionally, it would be cheaper and easier on their cap long term to buy him out than do this.
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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    The stamkos vegas rumor is old news, they can in no way make the cap work adding stamkos. The next issue the retaining your expecting on players is crazy. You are never getting a team to retain 35 mil.
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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    This just doesn't work at all with Vegas' cap situation. Not to mention I have a hard time seeing anyone willing to take on Stamkos' deal right now with the injury troubles he's been plagued with. I think he's a lifelong long Lightning.
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.
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    hey look a squirrel
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    I was gonna post something but then I dont have anything to add but only to reiterate what others already said.
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
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    Edited Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
    Quoting: tryger
    Kings have zero reason to do this, they are currently rebuilding and have no need for cap space. Additionally, it would be cheaper and easier on their cap long term to buy him out than do this.


    I'm sorry, there is a lot of stuff on this AGM, but buying out Doughty would keep him on your books for 14 seasons with cap hits totaling $54.99 million

    This scenario has him on your cap for 5 million, for 7 years, which is 35 million.

    either way, he isnt on your team.
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    I'm sorry, there is a lot of stuff on this AGM, but buying out Doughty would keep him on your books for 14 seasons with cap hits totaling $54.99 million


    Just to be clear the Kings will never do this. But if they did have to lose Doughty, retaining $5M for 7 years isn't how they would do it.

    I'm not saying the that the Kings wouldn't hate having Doughty on the books for 14 seasons, but taking the brunt of the $6-7M over the first three seasons while the Kings are still in a rebuild and having that drop to $3M during their compete window (and then continuing to drop) is better than paying $5M for 7 years during their compete window.
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: Chief_Kief
    Source??


    Eklund, probably
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: villenash
    $5m retention for 7 years...


    I audibly laughed in my office when I saw that.
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    Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: tryger
    Just to be clear the Kings will never do this. But if they did have to lose Doughty, retaining $5M for 7 years isn't how they would do it.

    I'm not saying the that the Kings wouldn't hate having Doughty on the books for 14 seasons, but taking the brunt of the $6-7M over the first three seasons while the Kings are still in a rebuild and having that drop to $3M during their compete window (and then continuing to drop) is better than paying $5M for 7 years during their compete window.


    it doesn't continue to drop though. its 3.142 million for 11 seasons after 6.142, 7.142, 7.142. IMO that is worse than 6 million for 7 seasons
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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    Ah I see you don’t have any logic, have a nice day


    this made me laugh 😂
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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    Edited Oct. 14, 2020 at 5:26 p.m.
    Unfortunately Stamkos not going anywhere. . Obviously was Day 1 conversation as JBB said all "non core" players were available/in discussion.. And did NOT correct himself when asked

    FYI .. Yoko Sucko Gourde was #2 on list after TJ
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    it doesn't continue to drop though. its 3.142 million for 11 seasons after 6.142, 7.142, 7.142. IMO that is worse than 6 million for 7 seasons


    Don't have to tell me they are still paying Mike Richards but Lombardi did that to create room to keep competitive. If you are a GM you make the most cap space during your compete window even if it handcuffs the team to a lower cap hit longer (under the guise that the cap continues to rise... well except now haha.) If I were Blake and Doughty had to go (he doesn't) and we didn't have space (we do) for him retaining would not be the prefered method during this phase of the rebuild.

    Honestly, it's a moot point (as noted above) because the Kings have the cap space to keep Doughty for the next 3 years and likely beyond as Brown and Carters contracts fall off, making a buy out easier each year after that if they needed. Truly Doughty is not as washed up as people claim, during the last stretch of games he was starting to return to form.
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 6:19 p.m.
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    That Edmonton deal is completely unrealistic. Even if Holland wanted to move Bouchard for that kind of return, the Oilers do not have enough cap space to absorb additional contracts without sending comparable AAV back.
    Oct. 14, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Ah I see you don’t have any logic, have a nice day


    Nope you’re wrong
     
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