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Colorado 2021-22

Created by: Richard88
Initial Creation Date: Oct 15, 2020
Published: Oct 15, 2020 at 8:07
Team: 2021-22 Colorado Avalanche
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Newhook, Alex3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Makar, Cale7$9,000,000
Timmins, Conor2$1,500,000
Toews, Devon4$4,000,000
Gilbert, Dennis1$925,000
Jost, Tyson2$1,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Landeskog, Gabriel7$7,500,000
Grubauer, Philipp5$5,000,000
Trades
COL
    Seattle

    Protected (7+3+1)
    - Mackinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog, Kadri, Burakovsky, Nichuskin, Jost
    - Makar, Girard, Toews
    - Grubauer

    Exposed
    - Donskoi, Compher, O'Connor
    - Graves, Johnson (waives NMC)
    - Francouz
    ANA
    1. Graves, Ryan
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    2022
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    2023
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    COL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$81,307,500$0$3,975,000$192,500
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    COL
    Landeskog, Gabriel
    $7,500,000
    LW, C
    UFA
    COL
    MacKinnon, Nathan
    $6,300,000
    C, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Rantanen, Mikko
    $9,250,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
    COL
    Burakovsky, André
    $4,900,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    COL
    Kadri, Nazem
    $4,500,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    COL
    Donskoi, Joonas
    $3,900,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Nichushkin, Valeri
    $2,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    COL
    Newhook, Alex
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    COL
    Compher, J.T.
    $3,500,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Bowers, Shane
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    COL
    Jost, Tyson
    $1,200,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA
    COL
    Kaut, Martin
    $863,333
    RW
    RFA - 2
    COL
    O'Connor, Logan
    $725,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    COL
    Toews, Devon
    $4,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    COL
    Makar, Cale
    $9,000,000
    RD
    RFA
    COL
    Grubauer, Philipp
    $5,000,000
    G
    UFA
    COL
    Girard, Samuel
    $5,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    COL
    Timmins, Conor
    $1,500,000
    RD
    RFA
    COL
    Francouz, Pavel
    $2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    COL
    Byram, Bowen
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 2
    COL
    Johnson, Erik
    $6,000,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    COL
    Gilbert, Dennis
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA

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    Oct 15, 2020 at 8:34
    #1
    Joined: May 2018
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    If I was Makar, I'd take a 2 year deal with 9+ as the second year and wait to see what the economy looks like. He could end up making a lot more.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 8:55
    #2
    Lenny7
    Joined: Jan 2017
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    If I was Makar, I'd take a 2 year deal with 9+ as the second year and wait to see what the economy looks like. He could end up making a lot more.


    Wouldn't matter whether you paid him in year 1 or 2, since the new rule for arb contracts only takes into account AAV now. But yeah, a McAvoy-type extension (2 years instead of 3) would likely make sense.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:42
    #3
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    Wouldn't matter whether you paid him in year 1 or 2, since the new rule for arb contracts only takes into account AAV now. But yeah, a McAvoy-type extension (2 years instead of 3) would likely make sense.


    I don’t disagree from the player’s point of view, but having MacKinnon and Makar expiring in the same year could put them in a tough position. I don’t think they risk losing either player but that’s a ton of money being added in one season.
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    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:43
    #4
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    If I was Makar, I'd take a 2 year deal with 9+ as the second year and wait to see what the economy looks like. He could end up making a lot more.


    Sakic is going to push for term, just as he did with Rantanen.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:50
    #5
    Joined: Aug 2020
    Posts: 1,941
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    If I was Makar, I'd take a 2 year deal with 9+ as the second year and wait to see what the economy looks like. He could end up making a lot more.

    There is no planet where an RFA gets 2yr $9M aav contract, especially one that doesn’t even have arbitration rights. What’s he going to do sign an offer sheet?
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    Oct 15, 2020 at 10:22
    #6
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 21,168
    Likes: 6,644
    Quoting: Lenny7
    Wouldn't matter whether you paid him in year 1 or 2, since the new rule for arb contracts only takes into account AAV now. But yeah, a McAvoy-type extension (2 years instead of 3) would likely make sense.


    QO still goes off the last year no?
    Oct 15, 2020 at 10:25
    #7
    Joined: Apr 2019
    Posts: 2,477
    Likes: 904
    Am i crazy for thinking id rather dump Nuke and Donskoi to keep Saad?
    Oct 15, 2020 at 10:26
    #8
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    There is no planet where an RFA gets 2yr $9M aav contract, especially one that doesn’t even have arbitration rights. What’s he going to do sign an offer sheet?


    It's the last year that sets the QO. The second year being high lowers the average but sets up a high starting point. Like Meier in Sj
    Oct 15, 2020 at 10:28
    #9
    Lenny7
    Joined: Jan 2017
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    QO still goes off the last year no?


    Naw, from what I read, they got rid of that in the new CBA unfortunately. Would have been helpful with a lot of bridge deals.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 10:29
    #10
    Lenny7
    Joined: Jan 2017
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    Quoting: Mergus80
    I don’t disagree from the player’s point of view, but having MacKinnon and Makar expiring in the same year could put them in a tough position. I don’t think they risk losing either player but that’s a ton of money being added in one season.


    That's fair, and something I didn't even consider.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 11:10
    #11
    Joined: Aug 2020
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    It's the last year that sets the QO. The second year being high lowers the average but sets up a high starting point. Like Meier in Sj

    There is still ZERO reason to do it. Makar is the 2nd most important Av, you pay him and then work out others and cap details. You get him locked up as long term as possible as early as possible because no matter how tough the current environment is you make it work because in 4 years it’s going to be a good deal even if you over paid.
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    Oct 15, 2020 at 12:06
    #12
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    Naw, from what I read, they got rid of that in the new CBA unfortunately. Would have been helpful with a lot of bridge deals.


    That will definitely make long term deals make more sense if you want big money.
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    Oct 15, 2020 at 12:07
    #13
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    There is still ZERO reason to do it. Makar is the 2nd most important Av, you pay him and then work out others and cap details. You get him locked up as long term as possible as early as possible because no matter how tough the current environment is you make it work because in 4 years it’s going to be a good deal even if you over paid.


    From his point of view though he'll be leaving money on the table if he goes long term while the economy is down
     
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