We won't trade Tatar and take on cap hit for multiple years. We're super tight cap-wise from now on.

Seems like too much to give up, even though Tatar was on a tear last year. Losing PK, projected middle-six forward, and draft picks during possible rebuild years...I don't know, definitely a win-now play but I think that leans too far over the line of mortgaging the future.

No thanks , we habs, have quantity already. I much prefer keeping the Best player in that Deal (Tatar)

that and nothing of value is coming back, Montreal loses a top 6 forward, and gets a bunch of bottom 6 forwards with term?

Thanks. Responding to a Habs thread yesterday that requested offers on the Habs' whole top line, as though a fan was trying to figure out whether it made sense to make some rebuild-type moves, presumably to open up top six roles for Caufield, et. al. No offense intended.

In the second half of last year, Panik got 20 even strength points in 36 games, playing fourth line. I think he might still have 2nd line skill. Just maybe. He's not quite Tatar, but he and Hagelin together take up as much cap space as Tatar would take up next year if MTL intended to keep him, rather than to focus on re-signing Danault and Gallagher. So.... it seemed like a fit, to me.



Thanks.

Makes sense. I like Tatar, but I don't see another way to make that work, with WSH. Their only UFA-1 contracts are Lundqvist, TVR, and Ovechkin. The first two aren't enough cap to balance a rental and just signed. And I think that last guy probably isn't getting traded.

Yeah, Hagelin, Panik, and Jensen helped the Caps' penalty kill improve from bottom ten to top ten. They're really good at that. But Tatar adds a tiny bit more secondary scoring than Panik? I don't know. I agree it's a high bid. But clearly Habs fans don't. Which is funny because Tatar was a literal cap dump in a trade of Suzuki for Galchenyuk. But what can you do?

Yeah I mean, don't get me wrong, he'd be a great add for the 3rd line that had minimal offensive impact last year, but I worry that %xGF < %xGA and we still have a net loss. And yeah, can' t make everyone happy. I mean there was a Montreal fan that had Gallagher at 7x$14mm yesterday before the contract was announced so you can take what they say with a grain of salt...

Yeah. TBH I think the Caps' 3rd line is almost as good with Panik as with Tatar. Defense is as important as offense. But maybe Tatar's a slightly better goal scorer, and if they can move him to PP1L, they can move Kuznetsov to PP2 with Schultz, Wilson, and Vrana, and get two good units going. Of course, they could just try Panik at PP1L. But they probably won't, because nobody knows he's good.

The problem is, with Drouin, Gallagher, Anderson and Toffoli signed, the top 6 of the roster is filled.

I like Panik, and would say Panik and a 1st might get Tatar, as Panik would be relegated to the 3rd line with Armia to cover the winger spots.

It's the Carl Hagelin, leason and marginal picks coming back that make it less interesting.

Yeah, I guess there are guys who play top-unit on a top-ten PK and get 25 points in a short season at lower cap hits than 2.75M Hagelin. I just forget who they are. Remind me?