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Danault or Tatar out the Door

Created by: mattice
Initial Creation Date: Oct 15, 2020
Published: Oct 15, 2020 at 9:25
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi2$2,000,000
Juulsen, Noah2$900,000
Fleury, Cale1$750,000
Poehling, Ryan1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Belzile, Alex1$800,000
Armia, Joel3$2,800,000
Demchenko, Vasili1$800,000
Danault, Phillip4$5,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Caufield, Cole3$925,000
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$77,753,809$0$1,175,000$3,746,191
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Drouin, Jonathan
    $5,500,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Suzuki, Nick
    $863,333
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Anderson, Josh
    $5,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Toffoli, Tyler
    $4,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    $5,500,000
    C
    UFA
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $6,500,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Armia, Joel
    $2,800,000
    RW, LW
    UFA
    MTL
    Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    $2,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    Caufield, Cole
    $925,000
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    $3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Evans, Jake
    $750,000
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    RFA - 1
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    Ylönen, Jesse
    $880,833
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    RFA - 2
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    Chiarot, Ben
    $3,500,000
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    UFA - 1
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    Weber, Shea
    $7,857,143
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    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    $10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Romanov, Alexander
    $894,167
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    $6,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Allen, Jake
    $2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    $1,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Juulsen, Noah
    $900,000
    RD
    RFA
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    MTL
    Poehling, Ryan
    $750,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    MTL
    Fleury, Cale
    $750,000
    RD
    RFA
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    Belzile, Alex
    $800,000
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    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:27
    #1
    mastersp4
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    Armia dont play LW. So Tatar, Armia and Byron out
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:38
    #2
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    BergDaMan
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    It all depends on the development of Peohling this year. If he makes solid progress and they have any trouble resigning Danault than they’ll have move on from him. Not what they want but harsh reality is you’re right. They can’t keep both and only reason I’d resign Tatar is if we know we’re losing Danault. I’d choose Danault over Tatar tho
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    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:38
    #3
    mattice
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    Quoting: mastersp4
    Armia dont play LW. So Tatar, Armia and Byron out


    his play style would be more beneficial on the left side anyway.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:38
    #4
    mattice
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    Quoting: Bigshame
    It all depends on the development of Peohling this year. If he makes solid progress and they have any trouble resigning Danault than they’ll have move on from him. Not what they want but harsh reality is you’re right. They can’t keep both and only reason I’d resign Tatar is if we know we’re losing Danault. I’d choose Danault over Tatar tho


    tatar will be asking for a **** ton too coming off of these career years
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:40
    #5
    Bigshame
    BergDaMan
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    Quoting: mattice
    tatar will be asking for a **** ton too coming off of these career years


    So will Danault. Likely somewhere around 6 mil each guy
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:43
    #6
    mattice
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    Quoting: Bigshame
    So will Danault. Likely somewhere around 6 mil each guy


    barley a 50 point player with a hometown discount should only be 5-5.5 but he thinks he is a 1st liner so yes he will be asking for a lot
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:47
    #7
    Bigshame
    BergDaMan
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    Quoting: mattice
    barley a 50 point player with a hometown discount should only be 5-5.5 but he thinks he is a 1st liner so yes he will be asking for a lot


    You can’t look at just their point production. That line is the #1 5v5 line in hockey playing against the top lines from other teams every shift with hardly a lick of pp time. Look at Gallagher’s contract ya he scores 30 goals but doesn’t have more than 50 points either. That would be the best 3rd line in hockey but you can’t expect them to be that good and not get paid. IMO Danault is as valuable as Gallagher
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:52
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    mattice
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    Quoting: Bigshame
    You can’t look at just their point production. That line is the #1 5v5 line in hockey playing against the top lines from other teams every shift with hardly a lick of pp time. Look at Gallagher’s contract ya he scores 30 goals but doesn’t have more than 50 points either. That would be the best 3rd line in hockey but you can’t expect them to be that good and not get paid. IMO Danault is as valuable as Gallagher


    totally understand that but as soon as danualts defensive ability slows down as all 2-way forwards do, due to new generation of players he will be just getting payed for skating.

    I fully respect danualt but you look around the league at coutuier, bergeron, etc and they didn’t get raises from just there defence game.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:52
    #9
    Steve_321
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    In most cases, I would strongly advocate against Caufield joining the team this young - but he is such a deadly sniper, his highlights are really breathtaking - if the PP is in trouble we should do it.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:54
    #10
    mattice
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    Quoting: Steve_321
    In most cases, I would strongly advocate against Caufield joining the team this young - but he is such a deadly sniper, his highlights are really breathtaking - if the PP is in trouble we should do it.


    this coming year in the NCAA as a sophomore will be fine for his development, if you take to long on players it also affects their development.
    Oct 15, 2020 at 9:56
    #11
    mattice
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    Quoting: Bigshame
    You can’t look at just their point production. That line is the #1 5v5 line in hockey playing against the top lines from other teams every shift with hardly a lick of pp time. Look at Gallagher’s contract ya he scores 30 goals but doesn’t have more than 50 points either. That would be the best 3rd line in hockey but you can’t expect them to be that good and not get paid. IMO Danault is as valuable as Gallagher


    honestly it all comes down to KK, if he takes this next step this year, and personally i don’t think he will but what do i know
     
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