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JVR Deal, Some Selling

Created by: LeafsFan
Team: 2016-17 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 27, 2016
Published: Oct. 27, 2016
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This was made quickly, so no hate just respectful thoughts. Dependent on TOR having defensive woes. What do you think about Spurgeon and Fehr?
Trades
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TOR
  1. Fehr, Eric
  2. 2017 7th round pick (PIT)
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3.
TOR
  1. 2017 4th round pick (STL)
4.
TOR
  1. 2017 4th round pick (WSH)
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2017
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2018
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2019
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$73,000,000$56,548,667$512,000$5,790,000$16,451,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 3
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 2
$4,200,000$4,200,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 3
$653,333$653,333 (Performance Bonus$207,500$208K)
LW
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
UFA - 6
$686,667$686,667 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$612,500$612,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$2,950,000$2,950,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 2
$625,000$625,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
$5,187,500$5,187,500
RD
UFA - 4
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 5
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 3
$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 2
$600,000$600,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Oct. 27, 2016 at 10:58 a.m.
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Pure value perspective I say TML adds a bit in Fehr and JVR deals. From a needs and cap perspective I think it makes the PIT deal a little more likely but the MN deal less likely.
Oct. 27, 2016 at 12:38 p.m.
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Spurgeon is probably the best choice of Wild d-men for Tor. Excellent puck mover and drives possession (he's good defensively too). Tor adds something (no clue what).
Oct. 27, 2016 at 2:02 p.m.
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Fehr really adds nothing for the Leafs except more money and a year on the contract.. Spurgeon: Hasn't one of the criticisms of the Leafs defence is too small? Spurgeon makes Carrick looks like the Hulk. Maybe he isn't as good but Brodin might be the guy Leafs might like. Still I wouldn't trade JVR this season. Not having him makes the LW really weak. Leivo and Leipsic aren't NHLers for a reason.

The way the season has started for the Leafs, instead of Fehr, maybe the Leafs should sign Fuhr....Grant Fuhr.
Oct. 27, 2016 at 2:27 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Fehr really adds nothing for the Leafs except more money and a year on the contract.. Spurgeon: Hasn't one of the criticisms of the Leafs defence is too small? Spurgeon makes Carrick looks like the Hulk. Maybe he isn't as good but Brodin might be the guy Leafs might like. Still I wouldn't trade JVR this season. Not having him makes the LW really weak. Leivo and Leipsic aren't NHLers for a reason.

The way the season has started for the Leafs, instead of Fehr, maybe the Leafs should sign Fuhr....Grant Fuhr.


Fehr, I thought was maybe a centerman who could offer a more defensive side to the fourth line. Spurgeon is a good defenseman and there's really not a whole lot of options for someone who can play in the top two and is right handed and young.

Also I completely agree, too early to deal JVR, BUT he's probably the first to go in a defenseman trade so we better figure out what we have in Leivo and Leipsic REAL SOON. They both have potential but we need to figure out if its top six or top nine
Oct. 27, 2016 at 3:08 p.m.
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LeafsFan Matthews, Bozak, Kadri seem to set as the top three centres.....If we need a fourth centre, besides Holland, there is Laich. Top 2 RHD. I never get would a top 2 guy is, but Zaitsev with a little NHL adjustment could very well be one. He and Orlov were the best Russian pairing in the World Cup. I know Polak, Holland and Hunwick aren't stars but the to trade JVR and the only real guy coming back is Spurgeon isn't good for the Leafs this year. Four regulars for one regular, just not good for the Leafs as this time.
Regarding Leipsic and Leivo. Right now they seem stuck behind Hyman (who unexpectedly is playing LW, JVR, Komarov and Martin. On the depth chart you almost think Johnson, Soshnikov, Tishanov and Lindberg as guys who are in long term Leaf plans (as least possibilities) instead of Leivo and Leipsic.
Oct. 27, 2016 at 3:57 p.m.
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LeafsFan Matthews, Bozak, Kadri seem to set as the top three centres.....If we need a fourth centre, besides Holland, there is Laich. Top 2 RHD. I never get would a top 2 guy is, but Zaitsev with a little NHL adjustment could very well be one. He and Orlov were the best Russian pairing in the World Cup. I know Polak, Holland and Hunwick aren't stars but the to trade JVR and the only real guy coming back is Spurgeon isn't good for the Leafs this year. Four regulars for one regular, just not good for the Leafs as this time.
Regarding Leipsic and Leivo. Right now they seem stuck behind Hyman (who unexpectedly is playing LW, JVR, Komarov and Martin. On the depth chart you almost think Johnson, Soshnikov, Tishanov and Lindberg as guys who are in long term Leaf plans (as least possibilities) instead of Leivo and Leipsic.


I think Johnson, Soshnikov, Timashov, and Lindberg have very high ceilings, but we need to know what else we have in house. What happens if Leipsic is a top six winger? We can then use one of the mentioned forwards to trading for a defenseman. Leivo had 5 goals in 12 games, there is potential there just because their names aren't as well known
Oct. 27, 2016 at 4:23 p.m.
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LeafsFan: You're right about not knowing about the potential of some guys. Most players should or have to make an impact by the time they are fourth year pros (goalies excepted) or else their chances of being NHL difference makers is neglilble. Leipsic and Leivo are in that category and so is Carrick. Every team has those guys where it's "do or die for NHL purposes. If at age 23 they haven't made it to the NHL, they don't have contracts next year and the next wave of 19/20 year olds come from juniors and they try to be NHLers within a few years.
Oct. 27, 2016 at 4:32 p.m.
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LeafsFan: You're right about not knowing about the potential of some guys. Most players should or have to make an impact by the time they are fourth year pros (goalies excepted) or else their chances of being NHL difference makers is neglilble. Leipsic and Leivo are in that category and so is Carrick. Every team has those guys where it's "do or die for NHL purposes. If at age 23 they haven't made it to the NHL, they don't have contracts next year and the next wave of 19/20 year olds come from juniors and they try to be NHLers within a few years.


Most d-men should be getting their feet wet at least in the NHL at that point. They might only top out as a 4D, but the lower pairing guys can make a huge impact by just playing sound hockey. Getting to the AHL at 20 is a huge step after playing against 16-19 year old in the CHL.
 
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