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Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 16, 2020
Published: Oct. 16, 2020
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Oct. 16, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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A package from the pens would have to include Marino. Then add
Oct. 16, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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A package from the pens would have to include Marino. Then add


yeah no, even this is an over pay for a guy you have to move.

Lets be clear about it. No team is destroying their whole team to add him. He's a good young player but he's not elite level.
He's not even the best player on his team.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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our defense is instantly very weak.
Granlund isn't getting close to 6M.
Legare isn't ready most likely.

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A package from the pens would have to include Marino. Then add


yes which is why PIT says nope.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 12:20 p.m.
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yeah no, even this is an over pay for a guy you have to move.

Lets be clear about it. No team is destroying their whole team to add him. He's a good young player but he's not elite level.
He's not even the best player on his team.


agree. is he the dynamic 40 goal scorer and the next Ovi (as was thought a couple years ago) ???
or is he the contract dispute guy who turns into a lazy winger who slumps for long periods of time???
prob in the middle. WPG can't sell high rn at all.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 12:34 p.m.
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yeah no, even this is an over pay for a guy you have to move.

Lets be clear about it. No team is destroying their whole team to add him. He's a good young player but he's not elite level.
He's not even the best player on his team.


Dude is 8th all time in goals scored under 22. Its ahead of Crosby. He is a generational goal scorer. You aren't in the stratosphere
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Oct. 16, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.
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Nothing there makes Winnipeg even think about it.
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Oct. 16, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
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Pens laugh and say hell no. Laine isn’t worth that.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 1:20 p.m.
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Dude is 8th all time in goals scored under 22. Its ahead of Crosby. He is a generational goal scorer. You aren't in the stratosphere


you are trying to compare him to Crosby and I'm not in the stratosphere?
put the pot down.

He's not even the best player on his team and you are here acting like he's elite level. He's not. He's a good player but no one is confusing him with that level. He's not a Crosby, Kane, McDavid level talent.
I'm sorry you don't get that. But that is reality.

And as I stated before. No team is destroying their whole team for him. Trades just simply don't work that way. It's why all teams trading good players lose the trade.
But you clearly are unable to figure that part out.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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CBJ say no thanks, we've already got 13 bottom-6 forwards.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 1:45 p.m.
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yeah no, even this is an over pay for a guy you have to move.

Lets be clear about it. No team is destroying their whole team to add him. He's a good young player but he's not elite level.
He's not even the best player on his team.


The jets don’t have to move him. They can simply give him what he wants - minutes with schiefele. It’s not like he doesn’t deserve it.

So they only trade him unless they get exactly what they want
Oct. 16, 2020 at 2:05 p.m.
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you are trying to compare him to Crosby and I'm not in the stratosphere?
put the pot down.

He's not even the best player on his team and you are here acting like he's elite level. He's not. He's a good player but no one is confusing him with that level. He's not a Crosby, Kane, McDavid level talent.
I'm sorry you don't get that. But that is reality.

And as I stated before. No team is destroying their whole team for him. Trades just simply don't work that way. It's why all teams trading good players lose the trade.
But you clearly are unable to figure that part out.


I did not compare him to Crosby who is obviously better just used him as an example to show how elite his goal scoring is.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 3:08 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 16, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.
I think Rust and Poulin and the 1st and 2nd is enough. They are getting a 28 year old, top 6 RW, in Rust(who scored 27 goals and 56 points in 55 games last year). Getting a top prospect in Poulin(who is NHL ready) and a 1st and 2nd round pick. That’s the going rate for a star player. A top 6 Foward or top 4 D-man, a top prospect, and a 1st round pick. I think adding Petersson is alittle bit of an overpay. I guarantee the Jets would take B.Rust, S.Poulin, and a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.

Rust scored 27 goals last year and 56 points in 55 games last year. Laine Scored 28 goals and 63 points in 68 games. For anyone to think Rust would entice WPG is crazy. Plus Poulin who is a top 50 prospect in NHL and is NHL ready. Plus a 1st and 2nd for Laine who is a stud but a FA after next year too.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 3:14 p.m.
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Granlund no way is getting 6M a year either. Everything I read is saying 1.5-3M for 1 year this year is what he’s gonna get.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 11:42 p.m.
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I did not compare him to Crosby who is obviously better just used him as an example to show how elite his goal scoring is.


yeah it's the rest of his game that isn't. And most people understand that.
Which is why he's not even the best player on his team.
You are kidding yourself on your return.
No team is going to blow up their current team sending over 3 roster players. And you sure as hell won't get a young guy who's looking like a 1RD +++++
More likely you'd be swapping a guy like Marino for Laine 1 for 1. Not that I see the penguins even accepting that. They wouldn't.
Nor do I think a team like VAN would do Hughes or COL Makar.

You won't win a trade with him. Get that thought out of your head. You will never get the value back you think you are owed. Which is why teams don't make these kinds of deals to begin with.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 11:44 p.m.
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The jets don’t have to move him. They can simply give him what he wants - minutes with schiefele. It’s not like he doesn’t deserve it.

So they only trade him unless they get exactly what they want


I don't know that's not the feeling I get here. Like there is already contention between the player and the club. Not saying he doesn't deserve a better center. But he also has not been their best winger either.
Oct. 17, 2020 at 2:59 a.m.
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I don't know that's not the feeling I get here. Like there is already contention between the player and the club. Not saying he doesn't deserve a better center. But he also has not been their best winger either.


He arguably was this year. I mean he was better than Connor (contrary to common belief). The only one who was arguably better was ehlers as he was dominant in all facets of the game

I mean schiefele was our best forward hands down but laine and ehlers are close 2nds
Oct. 17, 2020 at 7:00 a.m.
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yeah it's the rest of his game that isn't. And most people understand that.
Which is why he's not even the best player on his team.
You are kidding yourself on your return.
No team is going to blow up their current team sending over 3 roster players. And you sure as hell won't get a young guy who's looking like a 1RD +++++
More likely you'd be swapping a guy like Marino for Laine 1 for 1. Not that I see the penguins even accepting that. They wouldn't.
Nor do I think a team like VAN would do Hughes or COL Makar.

You won't win a trade with him. Get that thought out of your head. You will never get the value back you think you are owed. Which is why teams don't make these kinds of deals to begin with.


Dude I'm not a Winnipeg fan. It's not about what I'm getting. Also Marino is not in the same world as Makar or Hughes.

I'm just tired of everyone else undervaluing him.

Last summer Islander fans were saying they didn't want to trade Wahlstrom for him as Wahlstrom would be as good. That's totally delusional
Oct. 17, 2020 at 9:23 a.m.
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Dude I'm not a Winnipeg fan. It's not about what I'm getting. Also Marino is not in the same world as Makar or Hughes.

I'm just tired of everyone else undervaluing him.

Last summer Islander fans were saying they didn't want to trade Wahlstrom for him as Wahlstrom would be as good. That's totally delusional


Marino is definitely in the same world as Hughes, we'll see abot Makar, it's one season.

No one is under valuing Laine. The whole point of trading for Laine for a team is to either A. start a rebuild which means they don't have the kind of roster players you are really looking for.
Or B. push them to a cup. In which case they aren't blowing up a team trading like 3 roster players away. That doesn't make them better. Especially when they are guys in your top 6 and top 4.
This is why teams don't win those trades. They get picks. maybe 1 guy. That's it.
Oct. 17, 2020 at 9:35 a.m.
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Marino is definitely in the same world as Hughes, we'll see abot Makar, it's one season.

No one is under valuing Laine. The whole point of trading for Laine for a team is to either A. start a rebuild which means they don't have the kind of roster players you are really looking for.
Or B. push them to a cup. In which case they aren't blowing up a team trading like 3 roster players away. That doesn't make them better. Especially when they are guys in your top 6 and top 4.
This is why teams don't win those trades. They get picks. maybe 1 guy. That's it.


I never said otherwise. Likely a young player and a mix of top prospects and picks....
Oct. 17, 2020 at 10:16 a.m.
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Why such an overpayment for Granlund who was garbage last year? He’s not gonna make anywhere near what he made last year let alone $6M lmao
 
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