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Blues hit the ground running when the season opens

Created by: Sicarius
Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 16, 2020
Published: Oct. 16, 2020
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Trades
1.
NYR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
RFA Rights to Vince Dunn
2.
STL
  1. 2021 4th round pick (DET)
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2021
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2023
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23$81,500,000$63,733,848$306,349$1,625,000$17,766,152
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
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UFA - 8
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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LD
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UFA - 7
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RD
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
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UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,200,000$1M)
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 2
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LD
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UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
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UFA - 3

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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Tempting
Oct. 16, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.
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The wings are gonna pay the Blues to take Bozak? Lol
Oct. 16, 2020 at 4:40 p.m.
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No just no. Dunn is worth way more.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 4:40 p.m.
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The wings are gonna pay the Blues to take Bozak? Lol


Bozak is based on the Stastny deal. Bozak did better than Stastny this past year and he's cheaper so yes. You would technically have to.
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Oct. 16, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.
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Dunn > Buchnevich
Oct. 18, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
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Bozak is based on the Stastny deal. Bozak did better than Stastny this past year and he's cheaper so yes. You would technically have to.


lol....wot?

Truly hilarious how so many of you don't understand how trading works
Oct. 18, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: redw1n9s
lol....wot?

Truly hilarious how so many of you don't understand how trading works



Don’t try explaining everything. People who follow hockey understand Vegas didn’t get anything for Stastny is because they were in a position of having to dump cap at all costs.

Detroit could flip Bozak at the TDL for something better than a 4th..

I don’t know how the Blues will get cap compliant. Steen and Tarasenko will be on LTIR in January but I’m pretty sure they can’t deduct that until after the season starts, meaning at day 1 of the season their contracts count towards the cap.

Bozak makes sense as the odd man out but who knows???
Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.
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lol....wot?

Truly hilarious how so many of you don't understand how trading works


It's funny how you don't understand Stastny is making 6.5M and actually plays worse than Bozak who makes 5M and you expect to make extra assets off of that? Your analogy is stupid.
Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
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Don’t try explaining everything. People who follow hockey understand Vegas didn’t get anything for Stastny is because they were in a position of having to dump cap at all costs.

Detroit could flip Bozak at the TDL for something better than a 4th..

I don’t know how the Blues will get cap compliant. Steen and Tarasenko will be on LTIR in January but I’m pretty sure they can’t deduct that until after the season starts, meaning at day 1 of the season their contracts count towards the cap.

Bozak makes sense as the odd man out but who knows???


Stastny is already on the backend of his career, I think Winnipeg paid pretty much what a 34 year old Middle 6 guy is worth. Especially at a 6.5M price tag. Blues can get a 4th round pick for Bozak. He's 1.5M cheaper, and plays better. So it's not like 4th round is anything bad. If Paul Stastny went in a package with a pick to Winnipeg then sure it would be the same for Bozak, but in fact it didn't so therefore. Bozak is probably worth around a 4th-5th round pick. You can't pick and choose who is worth it and who isn't.

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lol....wot?

Truly hilarious how so many of you don't understand how trading works
Oct. 18, 2020 at 9:19 p.m.
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Stastny is already on the backend of his career, I think Winnipeg paid pretty much what a 34 year old Middle 6 guy is worth. Especially at a 6.5M price tag. Blues can get a 4th round pick for Bozak. He's 1.5M cheaper, and plays better. So it's not like 4th round is anything bad. If Paul Stastny went in a package with a pick to Winnipeg then sure it would be the same for Bozak, but in fact it didn't so therefore. Bozak is probably worth around a 4th-5th round pick. You can't pick and choose who is worth it and who isn't.


lol
Oct. 18, 2020 at 9:58 p.m.
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lol


Quitting being a troll and bring something useful to the conversation or see yourself out of the conversation.
Oct. 18, 2020 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
It's funny how you don't understand Stastny is making 6.5M and actually plays worse than Bozak who makes 5M and you expect to make extra assets off of that? Your analogy is stupid.

Statsny makes 5.5M and Bozak makes 4.25M as cap hit <> “making”. I think Winnipeg traded for Statsny to fill that vacant center spot while also being a familiar face. The difference though is that Winnipeg is trying to compete while Yzerman has come out multiple times saying he is looking on taking cap dumps for futures so this go against that. You can’t just apply one teams trade to another if they’re trying to accomplish different things (compete vs rebuild). So I think what that Wings poster is saying is that Detroit would only take Bozak as a dump otherwise we’d be fine running one of Fabbri, Vladdy, or Flip as a 2C and using that leverage to gain futures.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 11:35 p.m.
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Statsny makes 5.5M and Bozak makes 4.25M as cap hit <> “making”. I think Winnipeg traded for Statsny to fill that vacant center spot while also being a familiar face. The difference though is that Winnipeg is trying to compete while Yzerman has come out multiple times saying he is looking on taking cap dumps for futures so this go against that. You can’t just apply one teams trade to another if they’re trying to accomplish different things (compete vs rebuild). So I think what that Wings poster is saying is that Detroit would only take Bozak as a dump otherwise we’d be fine running one of Fabbri, Vladdy, or Flip as a 2C and using that leverage to gain futures.


Then Blues would probably look else where. Looking at Detroit is pointless, because that would be fleecing the Blues. When we don't have cap space issues anyway.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:05 a.m.
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Then Blues would probably look else where. Looking at Detroit is pointless, because that would be fleecing the Blues. When we don't have cap space issues anyway.

That’s fine, I was just pointing out why Detroit fans wouldn’t like the OP’s trade. We’ve seen Schmidt go for a third and I’d consider him substantially worth more than Bozak. I also think it would be difficult to move cap space currently but that isn’t your problem giving Pietrangelo signed in Vegas.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:56 a.m.
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Edited Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quitting being a troll and bring something useful to the conversation or see yourself out of the conversation.


you still haven't explained why the Wings, a team in a complete rebuild, are going to PAY a team to take on a cap dump....
Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:58 a.m.
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Quoting: BStinson
Statsny makes 5.5M and Bozak makes 4.25M as cap hit <> “making”. I think Winnipeg traded for Statsny to fill that vacant center spot while also being a familiar face. The difference though is that Winnipeg is trying to compete while Yzerman has come out multiple times saying he is looking on taking cap dumps for futures so this go against that. You can’t just apply one teams trade to another if they’re trying to accomplish different things (compete vs rebuild). So I think what that Wings poster is saying is that Detroit would only take Bozak as a dump otherwise we’d be fine running one of Fabbri, Vladdy, or Flip as a 2C and using that leverage to gain futures.


I/we really shouldn't have to explain this to anyone at this point.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:01 p.m.
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you still haven't explained why the Wings, a team in a complete rebuild, is going to PAY a team to take on a cap dump....


Quoting: redw1n9s
I/we really shouldn't have to explain this to anyone at this point.


Never said it would have to be the Wings tho. It doesn’t matter if it’s the Wings or Sabres or someone else. Just because you are in a certain situation doesn’t mean you gonna get cap dumps for someone who has positive value.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:27 p.m.
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Never said it would have to be the Wings tho. It doesn’t matter if it’s the Wings or Sabres or someone else. Just because you are in a certain situation doesn’t mean you gonna get cap dumps for someone who has positive value.


lol you literally have this as a trade to the Wings, and then I asked why would the Wings pay to take Bozak. You proceeded to explain it was because the Jets paid x for Stastny... .makes no sense.

Why even make an ACGM if you're not going to do a realistic one? I don't get it.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
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lol you literally have this as a trade to the Wings, and then I asked why would the Wings pay to take Bozak. You proceeded to explain it was because the Jets paid x for Stastny... .makes no sense.

Why even make an ACGM if you're not going to do a realistic one? I don't get it.


Not my ACGM but okay.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.
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lol you literally have this as a trade to the Wings, and then I asked why would the Wings pay to take Bozak. You proceeded to explain it was because the Jets paid x for Stastny... .makes no sense.

Why even make an ACGM if you're not going to do a realistic one? I don't get it.


Keep going maybe you’ll get McDavid Drai RNH And a 1st round pick for FC.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.
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lol you literally have this as a trade to the Wings, and then I asked why would the Wings pay to take Bozak. You proceeded to explain it was because the Jets paid x for Stastny... .makes no sense.

Why even make an ACGM if you're not going to do a realistic one? I don't get it.


https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2049004 Here’s mine.

You gonna want 3 first round picks and Vince Dunn for FC too? Lol
Oct. 19, 2020 at 1:08 p.m.
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2049004 Here’s mine.

You gonna want 3 first round picks and Vince Dunn for FC too? Lol


You're very lost
Oct. 19, 2020 at 1:48 p.m.
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You're very lost


No I’m not I’m perfectly fine. I understand now everyone who wants to trade with Detroit no matter if they are worth something or not have to give a bunch of assets up and positive valued players to make the trade work for Detroit. Seem about right? Cuz that’s how you both explained it.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 2:28 p.m.
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No I’m not I’m perfectly fine. I understand now everyone who wants to trade with Detroit no matter if they are worth something or not have to give a bunch of assets up and positive valued players to make the trade work for Detroit. Seem about right? Cuz that’s how you both explained it.


No, you're just very lost.

It's okay, move on.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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No, you're just very lost.

It's okay, move on.


No that is exactly how you explained it. Bozak is positive value but you want him to be a cap dump. So why not you know McDavid Crosby Tarasenko ROR Dunn like that's just the analogy here on everything. Can't pick one to be a cap dump and the other not to be. Stastny and Bozak are both positive value. You can't pick and choose who's a cap dump and who's not. You have no understanding of MARKET VALUE. And also no understanding of You still pay for the price they are worth. Market Value was set at a 4th round pick. So indeed i'm not lost.
 
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