Quoting: Mellowkero
DET isn't giving up any 1st-round picks, my friend; only a 2nd and a 3rd. I would argue that Cal Foote is a good defensive prospect, as well. They get a young, high-scoring winger that is a direct upgrade to Mantha and a decent defensive piece for taking two cap dumps and giving up two picks. I was considering Rasmussen over Veleno, but I don't think WPG would go for it. If they would, then absolutely swap those two.
WPG is losing a very young and very good player (Laine) as well as a promising defensive prospect (Heinola) to get Veleno, Stamkos (who is aging and seems injury-prone but brings success and leadership) and a 1st. I feel like that's a pretty fair trade-off.
TBL gets to dump Johnson and Stamkos in order to make room for Sergachev and Cirelli; however, they'll also need to sign Mantha, who has no cap hit right now because he's an RFA. That COULD be a sign-and-trade situation right there. I can't imagine him getting more than $6.5/year. The guy is a really good player, but he can't stay healthy for a full season. They're also getting Heinola, who, like I said before, is a very promising defenseman who is still on his entry-level deal. That would give them some more time to move pieces around in order to retain him.
Well think of it thsis way. What is Detroit getting for taking on the cap dumps?
Mantha, Veleno and the 2 picks for Lanie and Foote might favor Det slightly, but that doesnt nearly make up for the massive amount of cap you have dumped on them. IF the wings were merely taking on Perreault i could maybe say ok might be fair, but Johnson and his 4 years @ 5 is simply too much for too long to even remotely think about this without major assets coming their way.
What would the cost of cost to dump Johnson be without getting anything back? What is the cost to dump Perreault be without getting anything back? As wings fan I personally dont want any part of Johnson's contract it is simply too much term but if you had to take him at least 2 blue chip pieces (1st/top prospect) better be coming with him or have TB hold that deal. Perreault I would take for a 2nd, but I dont think WPG is that desperate to move him.
So what would the wings truly be gaining here? They get an upgrade on the wing and another part of their d core. But for that they lose a good younger center (a position of need for Det unlike wing) and two picks in front part of the draft. Plus the lose 9.1 million in cap space for a year and 5 million each of the next 3 years. There is simply not enough of an upgrade to make this trade for Detroit.