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Mid Life Crisis

Created by: kman0101
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 18, 2020
Published: Oct. 18, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
2$1,400,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
Trades
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  1. 2021 2nd round pick (STL)
Retained Salary Transactions
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,505,616$0$0-$5,616
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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Kings say no, for the 100th time.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:11 p.m.
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They dont need Dermott and how dare you suggest a trade with team that has matt roy on it, he is superstar defenseman 10x all star. I know you want him but no.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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Kings say no, for the 100th time.


Maybe they say yes, Ya never know.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
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They dont need Dermott and how dare you suggest a trade with team that has matt roy on it, he is superstar defenseman 10x all star. I know you want him but no.


Sorry you are right, King fans will aspire to bring the high-quality trades Leaf fans consistently present on this site. I can't believe the Kings didn't try and take Bracco for Vilardi straight up. Blake is going to regret that one.
Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
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Maybe they say yes, Ya never know.


101 times, we officially have to say yes.
Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.
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one year of chara vs potentially an entire career of dermott ...............................

neutral
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.
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101 times, we officially have to say yes.


Then why no... you still haven't saidgrin
Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Then why no... you still haven't saidgrin


Log jam with LHD. Bjornfot and clague will be up eventually and they just traded for Maatta
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:46 p.m.
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Log jam with LHD. Bjornfot and clague will be up eventually and they just traded for Maatta


Oh ok. That just so happens to be the reason we want to trade him... I respect that.
Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Then why no... you still haven't saidgrin


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Log jam with LHD. Bjornfot and Clague will be up eventually and they just traded for Maatta


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Oh ok. That just so happens to be the reason we want to trade him... I respect that.


Plus Cole Hults, who's older than Bjornfot and Clague and had three full seasons at Penn State.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:50 p.m.
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Oh ok. That just so happens to be the reason we want to trade him... I respect that.


Additionally: Leafs are not trading from a position of strength so high against the cap, the Kings need to keep all their high picks during the rebuild, there are options in the free agency without giving up futures, there are offer sheet options for Dermott that would be cheaper, etc.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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You could try the Rangers -- their left side is Ryan Lindgren (65 NHL games), Brendan Smith, Jack Johnson and Anthony Bitetto.

Or maybe Winnipeg -- after Josh Morrissey, they have Derek Forbort and Nathan Beaulieu.

Or maybe even Edmonton, because my understanding is that Oscar Klefbom may be on LTIR for at least the first half of the season.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 5:53 p.m.
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Additionally: Leafs are not trading from a position of strength so high against the cap, the Kings need to keep all their high picks during the rebuild, there are options in the free agency without giving up futures, there are offer sheet options for Dermott that would be cheaper, etc.


Oh ok.
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You could try the Rangers -- their left side is Ryan Lindgren (65 NHL games), Brendan Smith, Jack Johnson and Anthony Bitetto.

Or maybe Winnipeg -- after Josh Morrissey, they have Derek Forbort and Nathan Beaulieu.

Or maybe even Edmonton, because my understanding is that Oscar Klefbom may be on LTIR for at least the first half of the season.


We will send him to one of these places then.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
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Sorry you are right, King fans will aspire to bring the high-quality trades Leaf fans consistently present on this site. I can't believe the Kings didn't try and take Bracco for Vilardi straight up. Blake is going to regret that one.


I was joking. Also.. the only deal that was presented for Roy was Dermott. And thats a fair one.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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I was joking. Also.. the only deal that was presented for Roy was Dermott. And thats a fair one.


Not for the kings
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 6:27 p.m.
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I was joking. Also.. the only deal that was presented for Roy was Dermott. And thats a fair one.


And most Kings fans are ok staying pat with Roy against that offer especially since Roy is 700k for one more year and has played phenomenally in the new system being named rookie of the year and defenseman of the year by the team, while Dermott is openly the odd man out and the league knows it. If we wanted Dermott his price has dropped in the past month especially now that the Leafs are against the Cap.

Final thought, If a player plays lights out when you are trying to build a culture of rewarding your youth movement, why would you move them after they do everything you ask of them. And if you did move them, why would it be for a lateral if not decreased value player? Liljegren or Mikiyev would be fair trade values in my opinion, but the Kings would have to scramble to find their 2nd RD if they pulled the trigger on this trade. This is why Kings fans have been so reluctant to move him. The Kings are set right now unless they make a trade to take on a bad player for picks which they will either do now or during the trade deadline.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 11:43 p.m.
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Not for the kings


Due to likely cap hit, and since Roy is better (but older), I"d agree. A 4th might make up the difference, however.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 3:49 p.m.
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Due to likely cap hit, and since Roy is better (but older), I"d agree. A 4th might make up the difference, however.

No pick would help. It completely diminishes LAs right side.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.
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No pick would help. It completely diminishes LAs right side.


But they have Doughty and Walker.
 
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