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yes or no jets-avs fans

Created by: Kingaman
Initial Creation Date: Oct 18, 2020
Published: Oct 18, 2020 at 8:43
Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kylington, Oliver1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Granlund, Mikael4$4,000,000
Athanasiou, Andreas2$2,000,000
Trades
CGY
  1. Laine, Patrik
WPG
  1. Monahan, Sean
CGY
  1. Makar, Cale
COL
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Rittich, David
Buyouts
  • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
  • Michael Stone: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Johnny Gaudreau: $1,000,000 (14.81%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
CGY
CGY
CGY
EDM
CGY
CGY
CGY
2022
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2023
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$76,799,999$0$2,957,500$4,700,001
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
WPG
Laine, Patrik
$4,995,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
$2,425,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
Granlund, Mikael
$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 3
CGY
Bennett, Sam
$2,550,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
CGY
Dubé, Dillon
$778,333
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Athanasiou, Andreas
$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Ryan, Derek
$3,125,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
CGY
Gawdin, Glenn
$700,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CGY
Giordano, Mark
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
RFA - 1
CGY
Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 4
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 6
CGY
Parsons, Tyler
$735,000
G
RFA - 1
CGY
Välimäki, Juuso
$894,166
LD
RFA - 1
CGY
Tanev, Christopher
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
CGY
Kylington, Oliver
$850,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Oct 18, 2020 at 8:46
#1
KPasty
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 607
Likes: 137
On behalf of the Jets... NO!
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Oct 18, 2020 at 8:47
#2
LeafsFan4Ever34
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Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,280
Likes: 671
I'll do your job Avalanche fans


NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS THEY ARE DOING THAT
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Oct 18, 2020 at 8:48
#3
redwingsfan04
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,340
Likes: 1,072
Not a fan of either team but I can tell you that the answer is... NO!
Oct 18, 2020 at 8:50
#4
hwjw
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 516
Likes: 244
Jets more than likely say no.
Avs definitely do. Not many teams could offer anything legit for Makar.
Oct 18, 2020 at 8:53
#5
Ledge_And_Dairy
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 12,588
Likes: 5,657
oh my...

Im sorry jets and Avs fans
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Oct 18, 2020 at 8:53
#6
Richard88
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 5,281
Likes: 1,870
2 years of Gaudreau for Makar for the next 6+ years? Easiest of passes.
Oct 18, 2020 at 8:54
#7
Hedman77
Log off the internet
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 7,502
Likes: 3,580
please stop
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Oct 18, 2020 at 8:55
#8
Radu47
Vegan Commie Hipster
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,626
Likes: 622
Gaudreau is a UFA-2 for crying out loud my dude

Makar at sub 900k for both those years and then team controlled for half a decade on top of being like one of 5 virtually untouchable assets in the league

Makar almost outscored Gaudreau this season lol!
Oct 18, 2020 at 9:11
#9
DiehardRedWingsFan58
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 27,995
Likes: 6,114
laugh laugh Johnny Gaudreau+David Rittich for Cale Makar get real here dude, Gaudreau walks in 2 years to Philly or New Jersey. Colorado has Grubauer and Francouz so why in the hell would they want Rittich? Monahan alone doesn't get you Patrik Laine maybe add one of Hanifin or Kylington to the deal at least. Both Colorado and Winnipeg laugh and block Trelivings number.
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Oct 18, 2020 at 9:26
#10
coga16
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 11,835
Likes: 4,514
Just unreal, what a horrible offer. You can’t be serious
Oct 18, 2020 at 9:37
#11
jwg314
Jake
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 929
Likes: 428
:/
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:13
#12
Lunatik
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 523
Likes: 106
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
oh my...

Im sorry jets and Avs fans
Why are you sorry to Jets fans? Trading Monahan for Laine would be absolutely awful for the Flames. You don't create a hole at center the size of the grand canyon for a player with as many red flags as Laine.
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:25
#13
Ledge_And_Dairy
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 12,588
Likes: 5,657
Quoting: MethodMan
Why are you sorry to Jets fans? Trading Monahan for Laine would be absolutely awful for the Flames. You don't create a hole at center the size of the grand canyon for a player with as many red flags as Laine.


It would be awful but that doesnt make it fair value. Laine is by all accounts worth more than Monahan
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:44
#14
Lunatik
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 523
Likes: 106
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
It would be awful but that doesnt make it fair value. Laine is by all accounts worth more than Monahan


I really don't think he is. middle tier #1Cs are worth more than middle tier #1Ws because #1Cs are so much harder to acquire.
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Oct 19, 2020 at 2:53
#15
Ledge_And_Dairy
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 12,588
Likes: 5,657
Quoting: MethodMan
I really don't think he is. middle tier #1Cs are worth more than middle tier #1Ws because #1Cs are so much harder to acquire.


i don't disagree with that statement but I also think Laine is one of the best goal scorers in the league

Think of it this way, would you trade Tkachuk away to get Monahan?
Oct 19, 2020 at 3:03
#16
Lunatik
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 523
Likes: 106
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
i don't disagree with that statement but I also think Laine is one of the best goal scorers in the league

Think of it this way, would you trade Tkachuk away to get Monahan?
I really don't think that is a apt comparison, Laine provides offense, but is terrible defensively, softer than baby **** and doesn't put the team first. Tkachuk is just as good offensively, plays good defense, is not soft to play against, is a great leader and team player. Laine is more like a soft Evander Kane, and no I wouldn't make that trade.
Oct 19, 2020 at 3:25
#17
Ledge_And_Dairy
Joined: Jun 2019
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Quoting: MethodMan
I really don't think that is a apt comparison, Laine provides offense, but is terrible defensively, softer than baby **** and doesn't put the team first. Tkachuk is just as good offensively, plays good defense, is not soft to play against, is a great leader and team player. Laine is more like a soft Evander Kane, and no I wouldn't make that trade.


But this is also a bad description of Laine, he is not bad defensively ad was actually quite good this year. He is also not exactly soft either. However I do agree he doesn't put the team first. There is a reason Laine went before Tkachuk in the draft and there is still a good argument that he still would. Simply put, in a vacuum Monahan does not return Laine
Oct 19, 2020 at 3:42
#18
Lunatik
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 523
Likes: 106
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
But this is also a bad description of Laine, he is not bad defensively ad was actually quite good this year. He is also not exactly soft either. However I do agree he doesn't put the team first. There is a reason Laine went before Tkachuk in the draft and there is still a good argument that he still would. Simply put, in a vacuum Monahan does not return Laine

You might not agree with the description, but the comparison is bang on. Laine is no better defensively than Kane and is significantly softer, so that comparison is quite apt; but people seem to think he is the second coming of Ovechkin for some unknown reason.

Not sure why you are bringing up draft position, I know you are smarter than thinking draft position means anything after it happens.

The only reason Monahain might not return Laine is because Laine is the most overhyped player in the NHL by a country mile. So many delusional dimwits still have the Ovechkin comparison in their heads, when he's more like a cross between Skinner and Evander
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