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Barkov at the deadline

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Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 19, 2020
Published: Oct. 19, 2020
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Thinking about what Barkov would cost at the deadline/offseason. Important to note that this is essentially for 1 year and negotiating rights, so the value should be less than Reilly and Laine given the amount of team control. I don’t think Dumba would be a centerpiece in a Barkov deal given the current lineup with Ekblad and Yandle. The question becomes whether MIN can acquire the right pieces while also paying Barkov 10
mil. I’d love to have him but I wonder if we aren’t just gonna out ourselves into a similar position as FLA. if Dumba could pull in a top 6 wing and Kaprizov pans out, this isn’t a bad place to be.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:21 a.m.
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He'll cost a lot more than that.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:30 a.m.
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First off, it’s for two years, not one. And this upcoming deadline this is the kind of package its going to take.
1. A teams best prospect. One that would absolutely kill to give up.
2. A real good roster player.
3. Two first round picks.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:32 a.m.
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He'll cost a lot more than that.


That was my first thought as well but not if you look at comparables. Remember Barkov would essentially be a 1 year rental as he is a UFA after his contract is up (I assume this is a deadline deal or in the offseason).

Stone cost Oscar Lindberg and a late 2nd for a similar scenario. O’Reilly cost a 1st, 2nd, Thompson, Sobotka, and Berglund. I think this is a competitive offer. The real question is whether we will be able to add the remaining pieces.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:37 a.m.
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First off, it’s for two years, not one. And this upcoming deadline this is the kind of package its going to take.
1. A teams best prospect. One that would absolutely kill to give up.
2. A real good roster player.
3. Two first round picks.


The assumption is that he plays in Minnesota next year, only 1 guaranteed. Feel free to disagree but that’s the assumption I’m working under.

I would ask you to provide comparables for the package you propose. I think it’s a reasonable place to start but you should also think about how FLA maximizes the return if they know they aren’t going to resign him.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:44 a.m.
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It would be rossi kaprizov brodin and some picks.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:44 a.m.
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It would be rossi kaprizov brodin and some picks.


Seems steep.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:50 a.m.
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I don’t think Minnesota should be emptying the cupboards just yet. I understand the need for an elite center, but they’ve got Rossi. They’ve got Khovanov. They’ve got Khustnutdinov, McBain, Beckman, etc etc. Surely at least ONE will fit the bill. For now I think it’d be better off long term just sticking with the process for a year or two. There’s some key UFA classes coming up here too.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:51 a.m.
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For everyone saying that package isn't enough I mean -sure I suppose- but Fiala had only 8 fewer points than Barkov this year in 5 minutes less per game with way worse linemates (!) and he's an RFA to boot. JEE and a 15th or so pick are quite nice assets too. Gosh.

Just saying that if Barkov didn't re-sign Florida would absolutely make out like bandits there... gadzooks

Is 2 years of Barkov worth that risk ultimately? 😐
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockey91
It would be rossi kaprizov brodin and some picks.


Only if Barkov had 8 years remaining at 6M per year
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 12:54 a.m.
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For everyone saying that package isn't enough I mean -sure I suppose- but Fiala had only 8 fewer points than Barkov this year in 5 minutes less per game with way worse linemates (!) and he's an RFA to boot. JEE and a 15th or so pick are quite nice assets too. Gosh.

Just saying that if Barkov didn't re-sign Florida would absolutely make out like bandits there... gadzooks

Is 2 years of Barkov worth that risk ultimately? 😐


I think the Wild could make this deal happen but I think they would have to give up the pieces to make them a real threat in doing so. I just don’t know if it’s worth it unles GMBG works some magic with Dumba and other trades as well.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 2:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockey91
It would be rossi kaprizov brodin and some picks.


No, no it would not. Thats a major overpayment, he is not McDavid jeez
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 3:43 a.m.
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That was my first thought as well but not if you look at comparables. Remember Barkov would essentially be a 1 year rental as he is a UFA after his contract is up (I assume this is a deadline deal or in the offseason).

Stone cost Oscar Lindberg and a late 2nd for a similar scenario. O’Reilly cost a 1st, 2nd, Thompson, Sobotka, and Berglund. I think this is a competitive offer. The real question is whether we will be able to add the remaining pieces.


Barkov isn't a half a year rental like Stone. He's a step up from the guy in terms of both level, position and contract. ROR wasn't a rental in the slightest, his current contract that has 3 years left was signed with Buffalo, and it was widely considered as the stupidest trade Botteril made. The comparables don't work.

Considering that Wild needs to refine their prospect pool, I don't see going after Barkov as a wise move. The cost will be too hefty. Think about your current offer and adding one of Rossi or Kaprizov and yet another first to the pile. That's in the ballpark.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 8:31 a.m.
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Not even remotely close for Aleksander Barkov, Start with one of Rossi or Kaprizov and then add big time.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 9:29 a.m.
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If Florida trades Barkov they might as well fold it up and move to a different city.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 9:53 a.m.
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Barkov isn't a half a year rental like Stone. He's a step up from the guy in terms of both level, position and contract. ROR wasn't a rental in the slightest, his current contract that has 3 years left was signed with Buffalo, and it was widely considered as the stupidest trade Botteril made. The comparables don't work.

Considering that Wild needs to refine their prospect pool, I don't see going after Barkov as a wise move. The cost will be too hefty. Think about your current offer and adding one of Rossi or Kaprizov and yet another first to the pile. That's in the ballpark.


To your second, and I think most important, point, I think the the Wild don’t get better by making the deal in this iteration. They turn their best assets into a single better asset. It’d sure be fun if they did manage to get him though.

To your first point, I think this offer is better than the one for Stone and it is close to the value of the ROR deal. FLA gets better in this deal. But as for anticipated value, I think this is what a team may offer. Anymore really is too much for a player unless it’s the last piece for a cup. WPG has probably placed a similar, super high value to it now but nobody will pay it. Eventually Laine will love for some thing like this plus another pick or prospect given his team control.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 9:55 a.m.
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It would be rossi kaprizov brodin and some picks.


Not in a million years!!
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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It would be rossi kaprizov brodin and some picks.


If that is the price Florida wants. Unfortunately, Florida watches him walk in UFA for nothing since their asking price was too high.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.
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If that is the price Florida wants. Unfortunately, Florida watches him walk in UFA for nothing since their asking price was too high.

Or they just resign him
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.
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Not in a million years!!

Guess you dont get one of the best all around centers.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:10 a.m.
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Or they just resign him


I assume they will. But if they know he won't resign, they need to get something for him.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
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I assume they will. But if they know he won't resign, they need to get something for him.


Planets of teams will pay full price for his skill set. You gotta give up a lot to get a lot.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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Guess you dont get one of the best all around centers.


Im a big Barkov fan, but i would sleep very well at night not making that trade.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.
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Im a big Barkov fan, but i would sleep very well at night not making that trade.


I think that's the right idea. lets say you replace one of Fiala or Ek with Beckman or Boldy. Do you do that as a WIld fan?
Oct. 19, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.
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I think that's the right idea. lets say you replace one of Fiala or Ek with Beckman or Boldy. Do you do that as a WIld fan?


So, Fiala, Beckman, Brodin plus picks for Barkov? The picks (for me) couldn’t be 1sts - i think the 3 players are close to my max.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 7:31 p.m.
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So, Fiala, Beckman, Brodin plus picks for Barkov? The picks (for me) couldn’t be 1sts - i think the 3 players are close to my max.


Woah, my bad. One nhler, one prospect, one pick. Must have misread that.
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