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NHL should move to 8 divisions of 4 teams once Seattle enters

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The NHL should move to 8 divisions of 4 teams once Seattle enters. The league needs a team for the Central division currently and that won't be Seattle. The likely candidate would be Arizona and that will suck for divisional scheduling with Nashville, Chicago, St. Louis, etc. The timezone factor along with the sheer travel time will be hard on teams.
I think splitting the East then becomes harder but can still be done keeping some interesting rivalries intact.
(Picking players signed through 2022 as the placeholders)
Interesting note: when the law finally gets passed to allow states/provinces to scrap daylight savings time, depending on which way they go the timezones will be affected. This may throw the whole plan sideways.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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Arizona moving to the central is already confirmed, but how does Winnipeg being with Arizona, Dallas, and Colorado make sense for them? Maybe swap them and St Louis
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
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Poor Winnipeg, their travel is going to suck. That gives me flashbacks to the old Northwest division Minnesota use to be in.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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Rangers and Islanders should ALWAYS be in the same division, as with the devils. if you want to throw a fourth in there i would put the Sabres
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:36 a.m.
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this actually doesn't look too bad but like others have said the jets travel would be long. also can't see the New York teams being split up. overall still nice though
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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If there are still conferences Columbus would 100% veto this plan considering most of their games wouldn't be Eastern time anymore. Switch them in Nashville.

Should keep the three New York Metro teams together and Boston and Montreal together. The East could look something like this:

Div 1 - Boston, Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto
Div 2 - Philadelphia, Columbus, Detroit, Pittsburgh
Div 3 - New York R, New York I, Buffalo, New Jersey
Div 4 - Washington, Carolina, Tampa, Florida

Never going to be perfect with smaller divisions but the major rivals are kept together. Detroit and Washington get the short end of the stick though.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:38 a.m.
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They won't but how is the playoff format?
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:38 a.m.
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They won't but how is the playoff format?


Would be the division leaders in the top 4 spots and then the next best 4 in the other spots.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.
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I like this because leafs have the habs, sens, and red wings in their division. But in all seriousness, I wonder how the playoffs would work. top two per division? just keep conferences and do the top eight. interesting idea never the less.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.
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The other ones Drai
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The Northwest division is just one massive rivallry
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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No, I want the division winners to mean something. I like the 4 divisions and top 4 in each making the playoffs. Win your division, win your conference, then the cup
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
They won't but how is the playoff format?


division leaders and then 4 "wildcards" would be my suggestion. Otherwise just straight up 8 best in conference.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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As a NSH fan, I strongly dislike this. They are the only team that loses all of their divisional rivals - all other teams have current rivals within their division. You could argue CBJ too, but they used to be in the Central just a few years ago. NSH really gets the short end of the stick here in terms of competition. They've been in the league now for 20+ years and now they lose their CHI, STL, DAL, and WPG rivalries that they've been developing for years. It already happened when DET and CBJ left for the east too. I don't like this for NSH.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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I like all the feedback here. Winnipeg really does suck for travel no matter what. My logic was that the difference in travel time isn't that large for flights to ARZ for WPG and STL. The timezones are the big thing. I think you'd see a lot more 7:30 and 8:30 games to split the difference.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:52 a.m.
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Quoting: villenash
As a NSH fan, I strongly dislike this. They are the only team that loses all of their divisional rivals - all other teams have current rivals within their division. You could argue CBJ too, but they used to be in the Central just a few years ago. NSH really gets the short end of the stick here in terms of competition. They've been in the league now for 20+ years and now they lose their CHI, STL, DAL, and WPG rivalries that they've been developing for years. It already happened when DET and CBJ left for the east too. I don't like this for NSH.


Yeah I was torn on that. They could be flipped with CBJ easily. The big thing is I didn't want them having to be with DAL, COL and ARZ because of the time change. It's always dark in Winnipeg so clocks don't matter there lol
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:57 a.m.
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Yeah I was torn on that. They could be flipped with CBJ easily. The big thing is I didn't want them having to be with DAL, COL and ARZ because of the time change. It's always dark in Winnipeg so clocks don't matter there lol


I understand the reasoning, and it makes more sense geographically to lump the SE together like that. But for a team that's been in the league for 20+ years now, it's hard to make that change when they are the only team making that sacrifice.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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I agree, they should do this. I like the idea, I was thinking of suggesting it myself.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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I would consider making a couple of changes to the West -- moving NSH back to the Central and then swapping MIN and DAL to improve travel for WPG. Some changes would need to made for the East with CBJ back, but I think this works for the West at least.

VAN - CGY - EDM - SEA

SJS - LAK - ANA - VGK

ARI - COL - WPG - MIN

DAL - STL - CHI - NSH
Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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Who adds what?
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https://sportleaguemaps.com/hockey/nhl/

I looked at a map and built it from the corners, from scratch, to see if we agreed.

the Southwest is easy: SJ, VGK, LAK, ANA. Check!
The Southeast is easy: NSH, Car, Fla, TBL. Check!
Northwest is obvious: Sea, Van, Edm, Cgy Check!

Then it gets dicier

On I-95 closest to NYC (although, boy this would be a competitive division some years): NYR, NYI, NJD, Bos. Shortest travel in theory, but worst traffic, so it evens out.
Northeast, closer together: Buf, MTL, Ott, Tor
The ones in the middle in the South: Ari, Dal, Col, STL
Great Lakes: Det, Chi, Min, WPG
No shared regional identity, but they're in the middle, and close together, and have some rivalries, now: Phi, Pit, Wsh, and CBJ.

If two teams per division are guaranteed playoff spots each year, the above guarantees at least two Canadian teams make the playoffs every year. Could see swapping Boston and Buffalo over rivalries or over Buffalo wanting to identify as part of New York, but Boston is closer to NYC, and Buffalo is right by Toronto on the actual map.

Obviously if they really want to go with divisions of four teams, some poor intern would have to sit down and google map all six communtes within each proposed version of each division, and add up travel times at rush hour, to see which made the most sense, but just looking at geographic distance on a map, this is my guess for how it shakes out.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 11:40 a.m.
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division leaders and then 4 "wildcards" would be my suggestion. Otherwise just straight up 8 best in conference.


If you do best 8 in the conference what good are the divisions then might as well just make 2 conferences and no divisions. Makes winning a division worthless.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 2:44 p.m.
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If you do best 8 in the conference what good are the divisions then might as well just make 2 conferences and no divisions. Makes winning a division worthless.


It would only really matter for scheduling because they play each other more often. I like the 4 and 4 wildcards idea though. Just because in my setup there's divisions with 3 strong teams from the getgo with PIT, PHI, WSH or COL, DAL, WPG
 
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