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Top 30 Centers in the league come attack me

Created by: MelonVK
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 19, 2020
Published: Oct. 19, 2020
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I'm doing this because I hate myself and feed off of your anger. I can already tell this is going to be brutal, but well, I guess I love attention?

I didn't make this list for you to tell me that Connor McDavid actually is really good, I clearly disagree with him being the #1 player in the game. If you can't play defense, at a certain point your offense isn't enough. It doesn't matter if you're McDavid, Draisaitl, Ovechkin (apparently only Nylander who's way better defensively than all those guys). No, Barkov isn't some secret defensive gem, he had other good underlying numbers though, but he's catched up to those in terms of production now - again he's not a secret at this point. ROR, Toews, Krejci, Larkin and Hischier are pretty much that on the other hand.
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
32$81,500,000$230,367,166$0$2,850,000-$148,867,166

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Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$9,200,000$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 3
Barzal, Matthew
$5,000,000$5,000,000
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
$5,000,000$5,000,000
Logo of the New York Rangers
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$9,850,000$9,850,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:13 p.m.
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Brock On Dudes
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McDavid is... 7th...
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:13 p.m.
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David Krejci -_-
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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Oh jeez
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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This is brutal
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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You didn't put them in order right?
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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danault?
monahan?
malkin?
Kuznetsov?
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: lebronisdagoat
danault?
monahan?
malkin?
Kuznetsov?


Monahan, Danault and Kuznetsov are all on there but apparently it cut off
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: lebronisdagoat
danault?
monahan?
malkin?
Kuznetsov?


Malkin Kuznetsov, maybe Monahan. Danault? Yeah, no.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Chief_Kief
McDavid is... 7th...


yup
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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Brock On Dudes
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Quoting: lebronisdagoat
danault?
monahan?
malkin?
Kuznetsov?


Good lord not Kuznetsov
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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torontos finest
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this is peak two-way forward circlejerk.

impressive.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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Quoting: dzad96
Malkin Kuznetsov, maybe Monahan. Danault? Yeah, no.


Danault is very good
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.
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Danault is very good


Not sure he has a case for top 30 in the league. For me he'd need to break 60 points at least.
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
Not sure he has a case for top 30 in the league. For me he'd need to break 60 points at least.


Yeah the points havent translated from his play but hes def better than Kuznetsov
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:26 p.m.
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When you turn on shuffle on spotify
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:32 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
this is peak two-way forward circlejerk.

impressive.


Quoting: mondo
Not sure he has a case for top 30 in the league. For me he'd need to break 60 points at least.


You realise how flawed your thinking is?

If the best offensive forward in the league is the worst defensive forward in the league he's league average in theory. Needing "to break 60 points" is the strangest requirement. What if you're the best defensive forward in the league - no one can score on you, and you always manage 59 points and +59 every season - are you not the best forward in the league, never mind on this list?

Now, I even have some leeway here: if you're immensely talented offensively, but equally poor on defense, that's still better than average on both - since coaches can adjust situations for you.

I'd love to hear your justification for offense apparently counting for approx. 90% of player value.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
You realise how flawed your thinking is?

If the best offensive forward in the league is the worst defensive forward in the league he's league average in theory. Needing "to break 60 points" is the strangest requirement. What if you're the best defensive forward in the league - no one can score on you, and you always manage 59 points and +59 every season - are you not the best forward in the league, never mind on this list?

Now, I even have some leeway here: if you're immensely talented offensively, but equally poor on defense, that's still better than average on both - since coaches can adjust situations for you.

I'd love to hear your justification for offense apparently counting for approx. 90% of player value.


Last I checked you need more goals than the other team to win. Need to score to do that.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.
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This is what advanced stats do to people lol
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.
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What in tarnation
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
You realise how flawed your thinking is?

If the best offensive forward in the league is the worst defensive forward in the league he's league average in theory. Needing "to break 60 points" is the strangest requirement. What if you're the best defensive forward in the league - no one can score on you, and you always manage 59 points and +59 every season - are you not the best forward in the league, never mind on this list?

Now, I even have some leeway here: if you're immensely talented offensively, but equally poor on defense, that's still better than average on both - since coaches can adjust situations for you.

I'd love to hear your justification for offense apparently counting for approx. 90% of player value.


Excuse me sir, I'm questioning whether you've actually watched a game of hockey. But I severely doubt it. This list sucks loool
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.
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Quoting: dzad96
Last I checked you need more goals than the other team to win. Need to score to do that.


That does in no way, shape or form engage with the comment I made.

Also - if McDavid can't score when you're on the ice, that defense should be as valuable as his offense
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.
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Excuse me sir, I'm questioning whether you've actually watched a game of hockey. But I severely doubt it. This list sucks loool


I see you haven't checked out my profile
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
I see you haven't checked out my profile


You're a bruins fan. Makes sense
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Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
That does in no way, shape or form engage with the comment I made.

Also - if McDavid can't score when you're on the ice, that defense should be as valuable as his offense


You are ignoring the fact that a forward's specific responsibility is to score goals where as a defensemen is meant to prevent goals.

Also, you are making an assumption that defensive forwards can prevent goals at the same rate that offensive forwards can score goals. When in a reality, an elite defensive forward has less control over goals allowed as elite offensive forwards have over goals scored.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.
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This is god awful
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